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Re: 2018/19 Budget defenders 4.0-4.5

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swadd1er wrote: 05 Aug 2018, 22:31 I am struggling with the majority of my team this year to say the least but mainly the budget defenders.

Currently on Boly, Jagielka and Zanka (alongside PVA and Robertson).

Who have others gone with?
My 3 4.5s are Cedric, Kabasele and Boly (or Bamba if I go with a Wolves keeper double up)

Edit: I might have to remove Cedric as it looks like something's up with him.

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Fulham have agreed a loan deal for Chambers, could be good value once he is up to speed

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Pirlo's Beard wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 02:12
TOPCATDUSS wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 01:49 Smith over Daniels? Also 4.5 and scored 40 more points last year... reasoning?

I'm insane. :wink:
I was considering myself, but isn't he a rotation threat with Francis, who seems to regularly slot in both at CB and RB?

Picking a good 4.5m def feels a little bit like holding a handful of sand at the moment, falls apart upon contact. :lol:

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I'm more confident about having Ryan Bennett in the squad now that the Saiss experiment has tried and failed, providing we don't sign another CB.

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Stocker16 wrote: 05 Aug 2018, 16:39
twhelan22 wrote: 05 Aug 2018, 00:59
MGPT wrote: 02 Aug 2018, 04:54 Anyone have any idea about the likely West Ham back line this year?

Hearing good things about Balbuena and Diop and also seeing Rice is playing as a CDM. Surely one of these guys is worth picking up as part of a rotation?
I just wish they would realise that Wilshere/Rice/Noble isn't good enough even if they play all 3 of them!
What’s wrong with that midfield exactly?
Some per game stats from last season:
  • Shots against = 14.8 (3rd worst)
  • xG against = 1.54 (4th worst)
  • Goals against = 1.79 (joint worst)
Mark Noble is a year older (bad). Declan Rice is a year older (good), but it looks like he might have to play about twice as many minutes as he did last season in what could be a very demanding role for a young player. Kouyate and Obiang are basically league average at best - replacing Kouyate with Wilshere on a free is a good idea in theory but how many minutes can you realistically expect from him before his next injury? Add in the fact that Joao Mario is gone and Lanzini will miss significant time and I'd argue that the midfield has got worse, not better.

I've already talked about the defensive issues, but West Ham weren't able to move the ball through midfield either last season. They played a back 5 to help cover for their deficiencies in midfield, even though that meant having to ask a lot more than you could reasonably expect from guys like Zabaleta and Evra at this point in their careers. Signing some decent wingers is only going to help you if you can get the ball to them in dangerous areas.

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Ljdrox wrote: 02 Aug 2018, 11:33 What ive learned so far.
Chalie Daniels - Boly better option. Garaunteed starter.
Means - Bennett - Wan Bissaka or Peltier.
And Patricio needs to leave my Goal.

Boly Patricio Double up probably not good.


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Depends who you are rotating them with.

Remember GK's bread and butter are Save points not CS's ie I'd be more likely to start the GK than Defender.

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bigcliff2 wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 09:26
swadd1er wrote: 05 Aug 2018, 22:31 I am struggling with the majority of my team this year to say the least but mainly the budget defenders.

Currently on Boly, Jagielka and Zanka (alongside PVA and Robertson).

Who have others gone with?
My 3 4.5s are Cedric, Kabasele and Boly (or Bamba if I go with a Wolves keeper double up)

Edit: I might have to remove Cedric as it looks like something's up with him.
Aug 7 (Reuters) - Southampton right back Cedric Soares could be thrust into action in their Premier League game against Burnley on Sunday despite missing pre-season with a bout of gastroenteritis, manager Mark Hughes has said.

Portugal international Soares was due to return last week following an extended break after the World Cup in Russia but will join up with his club team mates only on Tuesday.

“Cedric is the one guy we wouldn’t worry too much about because he is a fitness guy who loves playing football and loves keeping himself in first class condition,” Hughes told the Southern Daily Echo.

“The fact he’s been off all he’s missed is game time. If he has to go in straightaway and I feel that is the right thing for the team then that’s what I will do.”

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blahblah wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 23:44
Ljdrox wrote: 02 Aug 2018, 11:33 What ive learned so far.
Chalie Daniels - Boly better option. Garaunteed starter.
Means - Bennett - Wan Bissaka or Peltier.
And Patricio needs to leave my Goal.

Boly Patricio Double up probably not good.


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Depends who you are rotating them with.

Remember GK's bread and butter are Save points not CS's ie I'd be more likely to start the GK than Defender.
Not sure what bread and butter means here but are you saying a decent keeper picks up more points from saves than CSs? Do you have stats on this if that is the case?

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Have a look in the Goalkeeping Thread.

Basically they get similiar(ish) points Home and Away, despite having more CS's at Home. The straight Rotate GK's and play the Home one is a bit of a myth. I'm hoping to do some number crunching on av oiding the Top 6, which is more my usual rotation, but even then Lossl did far better away to them than he did the rest of the bottom 11.

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Bread and butter for any keeper is a cs. Would love to see a stat that proves otherwise

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I think I read on FFS that the threat to Daniels' pitch time is suspended for the first few gameweeks? I know Bournemouth aren't great for CS but they have good fixtures, are proven and he has goal threat so he's in my team currently. Also on Holebas for similar reasons, and Wan-Bissaka as the most popular 4m bench fodder.

Thanks for all the great advice guys, I'm actually considering two 4ms in W-B and Peltier, in order to allow Shaw, Robertson and maybe PvA as my main three. Is that madness? It depends how things play out this week anyway, I'd probably rather have Holebas or Daniels as first sub then the 4m options if I can.

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Schlupp for Palace (4.5m) defender has been playing OOP as LW in their preseason, he's started virtually every game there, does anyone know if that's going to continue going into the season?

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ZeroRemorse wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 13:28 Schlupp for Palace (4.5m) defender has been playing OOP as LW in their preseason, he's started virtually every game there, does anyone know if that's going to continue going into the season?
He's in my team.

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Schlupp seems a good option after the pre season he has had. I have gone for Tomkins. Sakho was a monster with the bonus points at the back end of last season but he's a bit more expensive.

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TheBigLewandowski wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 13:54 Schlupp seems a good option after the pre season he has had. I have gone for Tomkins. Sakho was a monster with the bonus points at the back end of last season but he's a bit more expensive.
Yeah, I've decided not to spend 5.0m+ on any defender outside of the top 6 (apart from perhaps a Burnley DEF) unless they're really looking like CS machines, so that rules out Sahko and PVA at this stage for me, but I do like Palace's CS potential, so I will draft maybe 2 of their defenders.

Tomkins and Schlupp are looking like bargains at 4.5m (potential attacking returns) with Wan Bisaka as a nice 4/5th option for the occasional Palace double up.

The next I'd look at in this price bracket would be the double DD's from Brighton, Duffy and Dunk (4.5m a piece), I think they'd have to come in as high on people's list when the fixture clear up for Brighton, 10 CS's last season and potential for decent attacking returns.
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Meyer and Kouyate will be starters and its inconceivable schlupp isnt one to be benched

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Billy Bongo wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 14:26 Meyer and Kouyate will be starters and its inconceivable schlupp isnt one to be benched

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Probably why I'll roll with Tomkins just to be safe.

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Jagielka, Cedric and Wan-Bissaka my 3.

Likely to start the first 2 in all 4 games.

Slightly concerned by Jagielka though despite being the captain.

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LAMPS27 wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 16:58 Jagielka, Cedric and Wan-Bissaka my 3.

Likely to start the first 2 in all 4 games.

Slightly concerned by Jagielka though despite being the captain.
I'd be more concerned that he's an Evertonian defender.

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Tacalabala wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 19:59
LAMPS27 wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 16:58 Jagielka, Cedric and Wan-Bissaka my 3.

Likely to start the first 2 in all 4 games.

Slightly concerned by Jagielka though despite being the captain.
I'd be more concerned that he's an Evertonian defender.
There's an article somewhere probably Liverpool echo not very complimentary about Jagielka and all he mistakes he's making preseason. Nearly 36 years old can't see him being a good pick

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cymbalrush84 wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 10:35 I'm more confident about having Ryan Bennett in the squad now that the Saiss experiment has tried and failed, providing we don't sign another CB.
Was leaning towards him myself but having doubts based on ownership. Odds are incredibly he would ever leave my bench and with high ownership it's a risk of price for if things go south for him right? Isn't it smarter given the circumstances to pick the lowest owned 4.0 I can find?

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ctibbits wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 00:00
cymbalrush84 wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 10:35 I'm more confident about having Ryan Bennett in the squad now that the Saiss experiment has tried and failed, providing we don't sign another CB.
Was leaning towards him myself but having doubts based on ownership. Odds are incredibly he would ever leave my bench and with high ownership it's a risk of price for if things go south for him right? Isn't it smarter given the circumstances to pick the lowest owned 4.0 I can find?
There's two nailed 4m options, Wan-Bisaka from CPL and Peltier from Cardiff, just pick them?

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ZeroRemorse wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 00:30
ctibbits wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 00:00
cymbalrush84 wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 10:35 I'm more confident about having Ryan Bennett in the squad now that the Saiss experiment has tried and failed, providing we don't sign another CB.
Was leaning towards him myself but having doubts based on ownership. Odds are incredibly he would ever leave my bench and with high ownership it's a risk of price for if things go south for him right? Isn't it smarter given the circumstances to pick the lowest owned 4.0 I can find?
There's two nailed 4m options, Wan-Bisaka from CPL and Peltier from Cardiff, just pick them?
Already have Wan-Bisaka and the other is the question. Read different things regarding Peltier and actually lends to my point. His ownership is high enough that a non start would cause a lot of transfers and price drop. As I said whoever my other 4.0 is, isn't it smarter to get the lowest ownership possible so there is no chance of price drop?

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Gotchya.

On the other hand, Peltier will probably start and for a while and his price will rise and you will miss out?

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carver wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 20:42 Slightly concerned by Jagielka though despite being the captain.
I'd be more concerned that he's an Evertonian defender.
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There's an article somewhere probably Liverpool echo not very complimentary about Jagielka and all he mistakes he's making preseason. Nearly 36 years old can't see him being a good pick
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I don't rate him as a player any more personally but an Everton defender is favourable if targetting the first 4 fixtures.

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He appears to be nailed on, he is the captain as well. It's seldom that we find a £4.5m def that we can play without having to rotate. I can't see many alternatives, BOU appeal but their clean sheet record is poor and their style of play is likely to see more goals conceded than not. The only other team with I could make an argument for is SOT but I have Cedric anyway.

Everton are favourites to finish 7th - seems odd why so many hate them defensively given we have great fixtures and a cheap option who carries a potential goal threat at the other end.

The million dollar question remains is he nailed given the poor press that he's had. Keane will start for sure but will Lucas Digne predominately a full back replace the captain at centre half? I find that unlikely.

EDIT - Just reading that Mina and Zouma continue to be linked with Everton, makes sense given the departure of Williams. It would be a shock if a CB isn't brought in by tomorrow which is frustrating.
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Zuma is rumoured to be at Everton on loan by the end of the week.

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ppath wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 11:38 Zuma is rumoured to be at Everton on loan by the end of the week.
Unfortunately, just read that. *sigh*

Back to the drawing board to find 2 rotating £4.5m defs from 3 that includes Crystal Palace.

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A warning for folks looking for a 4.0m defender. Malone is by far the most selected. At best he's the 3rd choice LB possibly 4th with 4 at the back. Playing 3 at the back he's possibly even further down the pecking order for LWB, except possibly in an ultra defensive formation away to a top 6. So his 2 most likely games are away to Man City & Liverpool - No thanks.

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LAMPS27 wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 11:42
ppath wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 11:38 Zuma is rumoured to be at Everton on loan by the end of the week.
Unfortunately, just read that. *sigh*

Back to the drawing board to find 2 rotating £4.5m defs from 3 that includes Crystal Palace.
Maybe Zouma comes in at 4.5m :wink: Let us wait and see, what happens tomorrow …. and then in terms of pricing on Friday. It might make us revisit our current choices.

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Lucky wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 18:35 Maybe Zouma comes in at 4.5m :wink:

£5.0m almost certainly.

Sorry to burst your bubble. :wink:

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