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Gross playing as striker Oop mid
Choppy Mouthing same I think ish
Rightcharlieson looked v good

Which though? Im leaning to Gross

On another note, Hegazi looks finished he's gone

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Billy Bongo wrote: 10 Sep 2017, 09:02Gross playing as striker Oop mid
Choppy Mouthing same I think ish
Rightcharlieson looked v good

Which though? Im leaning to Gross

On another note, Hegazi looks finished he's gone

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Yes, quite glad Ahmed left my team on WC walking like an Egyptian.

I prefer ChooChoopo-Moteng, playing for a better team and looks a player.

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Choupo-Moting has looked good all season but I want a King-type player that I can rely on for regular points and value and I'm not sure he'll be able to offer that.

I would love it if Richarlison ended up being this year's King but maybe we'll have to wait a few months for him to settle in.

I do think Watford look stronger than Stoke though, so I'm happy to give Richarlison a bit of time to figure it out. I would love to keep him beyond GW8, I just hope he doesn't blank until then.

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Grob Oop striker anyone interested?

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Billy Bongo wrote: 10 Sep 2017, 09:02 Gross playing as striker Oop mid
Choppy Mouthing same I think ish
Rightcharlieson looked v good

Which though? Im leaning to Gross

On another note, Hegazi looks finished he's gone

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I'd been looking at Gross for his upcoming fixture run for a couple of weeks now, his performance yesterday has sealed it I think. 7 of their next 8 look decent so a good chance of some decent returns for a very friendly price.

Moting looked a handful yesterday and again he has very good fixtures.

It may look very much like chasing points but I'm considering getting them both.

I'm currently sat on Carroll and Ritchie as my budget midfielders, so will watch them play against each other today and make a decision.

As things stand I'd say Carroll and Ritchie to Gross & Moting (for virtually the same price, I have the little extra needed in the bank) is a definite upgrade, and effectively gives me two extra strikers, with good fixtures, who both look nailed.

Only a very strong showing from Carroll and Ritchie today will stop me pulling the trigger.

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I'm joining the Gross bandwagon.

Must admit he wasn't really on my radar until yesterday, but the more I've researched this morning, the more attractive he looks.

Of particular interest is the fact he created more key chances than any other player in the Bundesliga in both the last 2 seasons. And this despite being part of a team that was relegated last year.

The Scout report below is helpful.

http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2 ... cal-gross/

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Archy wrote: 10 Sep 2017, 11:39 I'm joining the Gross bandwagon.

Must admit he wasn't really on my radar until yesterday, but the more I've researched this morning, the more attractive he looks.

Of particular interest is the fact he created more key chances than any other player in the Bundesliga in both the last 2 seasons. And this despite being part of a team that was relegated last year.

The Scout report below is helpful.

http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2 ... cal-gross/

Have to say I wasn't convinced he should have been awarded the first goal as on viewing (only twice) his shot wasn't on target and deflected both towards goal and in.
2nd goal was well taken from distance.

How did others see that first goal as technically it could have been an own goal ?

Gross in home matches could well worth a play for me.
Pleased for Brighton yesterday great first premier league win congrats to them.
I think home matches Brighton will look to be strong like Burnley were in order to maintain premier status. The main concerns are the amount of goals Brighton would score as well as chances .

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I was looking at him too. I worry that looking at the stats (goals/assists) over his recent career that he's another Tadic - and likes shooting from distance.

But at 5.4mn, a definite bandwagon with their fixtures.

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Well for arsenal the bandwagons would be Kolasinac as his performance could see a bandwagon due to goal and assist potential.

Danny wellbeck taking over Theo Walcott as a player to get on at the right time
Nearly had a wonderful hat trick .
Leroy Sane also scored a brace so one to watch out for. Very talented .
Doucre at Watford has been with goals however the fixtures may be concerning to maintain such a threat but has done very well this season.

I think Brady Wood Benteke Abraham Ritchie Antonio Tom Ince even full backs like Cresswell and Tommy Smith could all be added if they have a good scoring GW however surely it will just change again next week to players who highly scored ?

However I tend to see these as watch lists than bandwagons

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Gross has gross underlying stats, OOP is largely irrelevant if he can't utilize it better.

Richarlison and Choupo-Moting have far better underlying stats.

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Finisher1 wrote: Gross has gross underlying stats, OOP is largely irrelevant if he can't utilize it better. Richarlison and Choupo-Moting have far better underlying stats.

Yeah, I looked at Groß for my draft team on Friday but his stats put me right off. I can't be doing with him, really, I just don't see Brighton scoring enough goals. Groß may be a good creator but who do Brighton have to finish those chances?

Richarlison I also have doubts about, Silva has indicated that he'll be careful not to over-stretch him. I actually think Carrillo may be a better bet, he scored 7 goals with 15 assists for Silva in his last season managing Sporting Lisbon. He could do well as a budget midfielder @ 5.5m.

Choupo-Moting and Jesé interest me most but I'm not that keen on Stoke till GW9 when they begin a very tidy fixture run. So there's time to watch how things unfold there I think.

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Ruth_NZ wrote: 10 Sep 2017, 13:46
Finisher1 wrote: Gross has gross underlying stats, OOP is largely irrelevant if he can't utilize it better. Richarlison and Choupo-Moting have far better underlying stats.

Yeah, I looked at Groß for my draft team on Friday but his stats put me right off. I can't be doing with him, really, I just don't see Brighton scoring enough goals. Groß may be a good creator but who do Brighton have to finish those chances?

Richarlison I also have doubts about, Silva has indicated that he'll be careful not to over-stretch him. I actually think Carrillo may be a better bet, he scored 7 goals with 15 assists for Silva in his last season managing Sporting Lisbon. He could do well as a budget midfielder @ 5.5m.

Choupo-Moting and Jesé interest me most but I'm not that keen on Stoke till GW9 when they begin a very tidy fixture run. So there's time to watch how things unfold there I think.

Thanks for highlighting carillo of watford this player I will put on watch list.

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And Shaqiri. He was the dog's bollocks at a past Euro, and takes the dead ball duties for stoke.
Like Jones of ManU, he is very injury prone, so if like Jones you are willing to replace him whenever the probable injury happens, he can do well for you.

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Bandwagon watch addition - Wimmer.

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I've had Gross all season fwiw. Can't rely on past stats too much because he has played all over the place (CM, DM etc). He is a dead ball specialist though and was on fire preseason in an attacking role, obviously nobody was talking about him until this weekend lol. Brighton's next few fixtures are decent and they haven't been as bad as people think.

Bringing in Richarlison and Moting is laughable imo. Watford solid but not as good as current points suggest and neither is Richarlison. Moting isn't a great fantasy option and it's stupid to get him in after one good week.

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Qualify the statement about Watford, what's facts or stats back that up

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baganboy wrote: 10 Sep 2017, 17:20 And Shaqiri. He was the dog's bollocks at a past Euro, and takes the dead ball duties for stoke.
Like Jones of ManU, he is very injury prone, so if like Jones you are willing to replace him whenever the probable injury happens, he can do well for you.
I like Shaqiri as an FPL pick as when he's on pitch he likes to be involved. Under future consideration to bring in on wild card and due to injury concerns it's case of getting him at the right time.
A scorer of great goals I think he'll have his own thread before season ,17/18 is out.


Another who could is Andre Ayew .

After his time at Swansea last season west ham the injuries hampered him but is a play who can bring in points
What do you think of Andre Ayew ? He is a player who offers goals .

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Oh yes. Andre Ayew is a superb player. If played regularly, and the team is performing reasonably decently i.e. ~8-12th in the league, I daresay he can get as high as 180 - 190 points, and that is a 8.5-9M midfielder.

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baganboy wrote: 12 Sep 2017, 15:44 Oh yes. Andre Ayew is a superb player. If played regularly, and the team is performing reasonably decently i.e. ~8-12th in the league, I daresay he can get as high as 180 - 190 points, and that is a 8.5-9M midfielder.
I think that projection is a little high, I like André Ayew and I'd love him to cement his place in the first XI, but that's a lot of "ifs". That and I don't really rate Bilic as a manager.

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Ayew was on my shortlist . But when West Ham's fixtures came out I decided to swerve .

Doesn't look to me like he will play enough minutes now

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twhelan22 wrote: 11 Sep 2017, 03:26 Bringing in Richarlison and Moting is laughable imo. Watford solid but not as good as current points suggest and neither is Richarlison. Moting isn't a great fantasy option and it's stupid to get him in after one good week.
Why do you think Moting is laughable? He has scored about 1 goal in 4 appearances in the Bundesliga over the last few years. Throw a few assists in there and I'm not too disappointed with that for a 5.5 midfielder. I wouldn't laugh at somebody signing him.

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Markman wrote: 12 Sep 2017, 20:57Why do you think Moting is laughable? He has scored about 1 goal in 4 appearances in the Bundesliga over the last few years. Throw a few assists in there and I'm not too disappointed with that for a 5.5 midfielder. I wouldn't laugh at somebody signing him.
Worth bringing in for Pogba as it allows a Kane upgrade if desired. Money in the bank if not. Should also make value.

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Bob Newhart wrote: 13 Sep 2017, 17:56
Markman wrote: 12 Sep 2017, 20:57Why do you think Moting is laughable? He has scored about 1 goal in 4 appearances in the Bundesliga over the last few years. Throw a few assists in there and I'm not too disappointed with that for a 5.5 midfielder. I wouldn't laugh at somebody signing him.
Worth bringing in for Pogba as it allows a Kane upgrade if desired. Money in the bank if not. Should also make value.
I'm holding off. At his price he might be worth a punt but their next few fixtures aren't great and in the long run I think Jese will get more of Stoke's chances. There really aren't any midfielders below 8 that look like genuine bandwagons yet.

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Markman wrote: 12 Sep 2017, 20:57
twhelan22 wrote: 11 Sep 2017, 03:26 Bringing in Richarlison and Moting is laughable imo. Watford solid but not as good as current points suggest and neither is Richarlison. Moting isn't a great fantasy option and it's stupid to get him in after one good week.
Why do you think Moting is laughable? He has scored about 1 goal in 4 appearances in the Bundesliga over the last few years. Throw a few assists in there and I'm not too disappointed with that for a 5.5 midfielder. I wouldn't laugh at somebody signing him.
Yeah he isn't the worst option ever, just meant that it's funny how people are very quick to jump on guys like Richarlison and Moting after they score a couple of fantasy points. If you look into it more you could probably find better short term and long term options imo. Moting is playing up top atm so not an awful option, just not somebody I am personally rushing to get in. I've already had Pascal Gross since the start of the season, though.

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twhelan22 wrote:
Markman wrote: 12 Sep 2017, 20:57
twhelan22 wrote: 11 Sep 2017, 03:26 Bringing in Richarlison and Moting is laughable imo. Watford solid but not as good as current points suggest and neither is Richarlison. Moting isn't a great fantasy option and it's stupid to get him in after one good week.
Why do you think Moting is laughable? He has scored about 1 goal in 4 appearances in the Bundesliga over the last few years. Throw a few assists in there and I'm not too disappointed with that for a 5.5 midfielder. I wouldn't laugh at somebody signing him.
Yeah he isn't the worst option ever, just meant that it's funny how people are very quick to jump on guys like Richarlison and Moting after they score a couple of fantasy points. If you look into it more you could probably find better short term and long term options imo. Moting is playing up top atm so not an awful option, just not somebody I am personally rushing to get in. I've already had Pascal Gross since the start of the season, though.
Well perhaps casuals are jumping on them because of a couple of goals, but good managers look at their underlying stats and notice they are brilliant. Do you ever look at underlying stats? You should do that.

I guess the gametime is still a worry with both of them, but if they become nailed I wouldn't be surprised if they absolutely crush their price tags.


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Chups-Moth scored 3 all season so his 2 in one game aren't overly exciting me tbh

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Richalison passes the eye test, not all of us play fantasy football in forums alone, we actually watch games

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Finisher1 wrote: 14 Sep 2017, 12:11
twhelan22 wrote:
Markman wrote: 12 Sep 2017, 20:57
twhelan22 wrote: 11 Sep 2017, 03:26 Bringing in Richarlison and Moting is laughable imo. Watford solid but not as good as current points suggest and neither is Richarlison. Moting isn't a great fantasy option and it's stupid to get him in after one good week.
Why do you think Moting is laughable? He has scored about 1 goal in 4 appearances in the Bundesliga over the last few years. Throw a few assists in there and I'm not too disappointed with that for a 5.5 midfielder. I wouldn't laugh at somebody signing him.
Yeah he isn't the worst option ever, just meant that it's funny how people are very quick to jump on guys like Richarlison and Moting after they score a couple of fantasy points. If you look into it more you could probably find better short term and long term options imo. Moting is playing up top atm so not an awful option, just not somebody I am personally rushing to get in. I've already had Pascal Gross since the start of the season, though.
Well perhaps casuals are jumping on them because of a couple of goals, but good managers look at their underlying stats and notice they are brilliant. Do you ever look at underlying stats? You should do that.

I guess the gametime is still a worry with both of them, but if they become nailed I wouldn't be surprised if they absolutely crush their price tags.
Yep that's all I do! Their stats aren't that impressive if you look at long term form. Feel free to rely on a four game sample if you like!
To be clear I'm not saying that Richarlison is bad. He just isn't as good as people want to believe and I'd rather avoid guys like that in fantasy.

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Decent performance from Pascal Gross tonight vs Bournemouth. My attention was drawn to him through this thread.

Thank you for all your discussion. :D

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I jumped on the Chopo Moto train this GW.

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