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Hudd and Brighton rotate really well :wink:

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Matip is training already, so he could play as early as tomorrow (ie, Klavan could lose his spot as early as tomorrow, not 3 games).
um09a2k wrote: 24 Dec 2017, 15:44 Anyone got any prognosis on Matip?

Thinking of bringing Klavan in but i'm aware of Klopptation, but he seems good value at 4.3 and I can play him for the next 3 games if Matip is still out.

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Beadling Boy wrote: 26 Dec 2017, 02:12 Matip is training already, so he could play as early as tomorrow (ie, Klavan could lose his spot as early as tomorrow, not 3 games).
um09a2k wrote: 24 Dec 2017, 15:44 Anyone got any prognosis on Matip?

Thinking of bringing Klavan in but i'm aware of Klopptation, but he seems good value at 4.3 and I can play him for the next 3 games if Matip is still out.
yep, decided against it. thanks for that.

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Currently sit with Dummett on the book but not sure he’ll start versus Brighton. Any toonies here who would mind giving there view on Newcastle defence? Considering simply replacing Dummett with more certain starter.

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I am also interested in Newcastle given their decent fixtures - about to buy Mbemba for a cheap 3.9 enabler to squeeze in the rising Firminho as well.

Any Toon fans think Mbemba will start next GW?

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Ive gone with lascelles because of goalthreat and the fact he is Secure.


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Viduka wrote: 28 Dec 2017, 08:44 Ive gone with lascelles because of goalthreat and the fact he is Secure.
Thanks Viduka but money is an issue. What do you reckon about Mbemba starting?

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Will Lowton be straight back in this week or is there a chance that Bardsley keeps his spot?

He looks the best bet at 4.5 if he's nailed.

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Sammy the Crab wrote: 30 Dec 2017, 08:54 Will Lowton be straight back in this week or is there a chance that Bardsley keeps his spot?

He looks the best bet at 4.5 if he's nailed.
Lowton has been fit and on the bench for the last three games.

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Ah, thanks, hadn't realised.

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Alex McCarthy (4.4m) has started the last two in goal for Southampton. Despite the Saints lowly league position they're the eighth best team in terms of XGa and =11th for actual goals against. From GW25-32 they have a nice run of fixtures. Either as a downgrade to free up cash, or if Chelsea blank in GW28, I'm looking at him as a Courtiois replacement to see me through until the second wildcard. He might interest though who have to move Pope on too if/when that happens.

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dino1980 wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 06:41 Alex McCarthy (4.4m) has started the last two in goal for Southampton. Despite the Saints lowly league position they're the eighth best team in terms of XGa and =11th for actual goals against. From GW25-32 they have a nice run of fixtures. Either as a downgrade to free up cash, or if Chelsea blank in GW28, I'm looking at him as a Courtiois replacement to see me through until the second wildcard. He might interest though who have to move Pope on too if/when that happens.
I think Forster is bound to regain his place sooner or later.

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djskope wrote: 28 Dec 2017, 09:15
Viduka wrote: 28 Dec 2017, 08:44 Ive gone with lascelles because of goalthreat and the fact he is Secure.
Thanks Viduka but money is an issue. What do you reckon about Mbemba starting?
Mbemba is a no go, he's been shown the door by Benitez which is a shame. However, Benitez likes Dummett as he's our only left footed fullback. He's liable for a mistake, but with Lascelles back in the side, we tend not to concede too many. Could be a good bet now he's back from injury.

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Kevin Wimmer is only 4.2 and Stoke's fixtures are green and kind from GW24-29. Not sure he'll keep his place when Martins Indi and Shawcross are back, though. Not sure Stoke will keep a lot of clean sheets either, but I've kept him since GW8 wildcard so might just keep hold for a while longer :mrgreen:

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19Yorke wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 11:38 Kevin Wimmer is only 4.2 and Stoke's fixtures are green and kind from GW24-29. Not sure he'll keep his place when Martins Indi and Shawcross are back, though. Not sure Stoke will keep a lot of clean sheets either, but I've kept him since GW8 wildcard so might just keep hold for a while longer :mrgreen:
Potentially a good spot there. I don't think I'm going to have enough frees to be making too many defensive transfers (might just have one though), but he could be a good cheeky cut-price short term pick indeed. My only real problems with him are
1) He's Wimmer
2) Stoke's defence
but maybe a new manager can remedy at least one of those. :lol:

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Finisher1 wrote:
dino1980 wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 06:41 Alex McCarthy (4.4m) has started the last two in goal for Southampton. Despite the Saints lowly league position they're the eighth best team in terms of XGa and =11th for actual goals against. From GW25-32 they have a nice run of fixtures. Either as a downgrade to free up cash, or if Chelsea blank in GW28, I'm looking at him as a Courtiois replacement to see me through until the second wildcard. He might interest though who have to move Pope on too if/when that happens.
I think Forster is bound to regain his place sooner or later.
I disagree

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87AK wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 11:18
djskope wrote: 28 Dec 2017, 09:15
Viduka wrote: 28 Dec 2017, 08:44 Ive gone with lascelles because of goalthreat and the fact he is Secure.
Thanks Viduka but money is an issue. What do you reckon about Mbemba starting?
Mbemba is a no go, he's been shown the door by Benitez which is a shame. However, Benitez likes Dummett as he's our only left footed fullback. He's liable for a mistake, but with Lascelles back in the side, we tend not to concede too many. Could be a good bet now he's back from injury.
Isn’t lascalles injured again?

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Finisher1 wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 08:16
dino1980 wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 06:41 Alex McCarthy (4.4m) has started the last two in goal for Southampton. Despite the Saints lowly league position they're the eighth best team in terms of XGa and =11th for actual goals against. From GW25-32 they have a nice run of fixtures. Either as a downgrade to free up cash, or if Chelsea blank in GW28, I'm looking at him as a Courtiois replacement to see me through until the second wildcard. He might interest though who have to move Pope on too if/when that happens.
I think Forster is bound to regain his place sooner or later.
I'm not so sure, Forster has been dropped due to poor performances, it now appears to be McCarthy's place to lose.

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You'd think either Forster has a good chance of regaining his place or, if the manager has lost complete confidence in him they could spend some of their VVD money. Either way it's a big gamble.

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What about Palace's Tomkins at 4.3? He's started 9 of the last 10 matches and the last 7 straight games. Their next 5 fixtures aren't too bad either . . . BUR, ars, whu, NEW, eve

Does he have that D position locked up for now, or is there someone else set to come back from injury that could take his starting job?

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Definitely locked up. Dann is gone for the season and sakho is yet to return from his calf injury

Palace are surely looking for a cb in January

Palace have widespread injury worries though so are very vulnerable at the moment

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dino1980 wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 20:10
Finisher1 wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 08:16
dino1980 wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 06:41 Alex McCarthy (4.4m) has started the last two in goal for Southampton. Despite the Saints lowly league position they're the eighth best team in terms of XGa and =11th for actual goals against. From GW25-32 they have a nice run of fixtures. Either as a downgrade to free up cash, or if Chelsea blank in GW28, I'm looking at him as a Courtiois replacement to see me through until the second wildcard. He might interest though who have to move Pope on too if/when that happens.
I think Forster is bound to regain his place sooner or later.
I'm not so sure, Forster has been dropped due to poor performances, it now appears to be McCarthy's place to lose.
That is my reading of the situation, but I'm nowhere near thinking of bringing him in.

If they wanted a GK they could have got one form Liverpool as part of the VvD deal :wink:

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No Way Jose wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 21:17 Definitely locked up. Dann is gone for the season and sakho is yet to return from his calf injury

Palace are surely looking for a cb in January

Palace have widespread injury worries though so are very vulnerable at the moment
Thank you, NWJ. I do see hat CP are hurting right now. I was simply looking for a 5th D that is playing 90, or close to 90, who could come in once in a blue moon (hopefully never!) if rotation / injuries require my team to dip deep into the bench for help. Having a non-playing player on the bench (ie, Mariappa) sux! :)

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Beadling Boy wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 22:34
No Way Jose wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 21:17 Definitely locked up. Dann is gone for the season and sakho is yet to return from his calf injury

Palace are surely looking for a cb in January

Palace have widespread injury worries though so are very vulnerable at the moment
Thank you, NWJ. I do see hat CP are hurting right now. I was simply looking for a 5th D that is playing 90, or close to 90, who could come in once in a blue moon (hopefully never!) if rotation / injuries require my team to dip deep into the bench for help. Having a non-playing player on the bench (ie, Mariappa) sux! :)
Yeah i'm with you on the cheap D5 and wanting to get rid of mariappa. That gamble backfired on me

Dummett, wimmer, holgate are options but I would probably pick tomkins

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hancockjr wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 19:55
87AK wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 11:18
djskope wrote: 28 Dec 2017, 09:15
Viduka wrote: 28 Dec 2017, 08:44 Ive gone with lascelles because of goalthreat and the fact he is Secure.
Thanks Viduka but money is an issue. What do you reckon about Mbemba starting?
Mbemba is a no go, he's been shown the door by Benitez which is a shame. However, Benitez likes Dummett as he's our only left footed fullback. He's liable for a mistake, but with Lascelles back in the side, we tend not to concede too many. Could be a good bet now he's back from injury.
Isn’t lascalles injured again?
Nope, confirmed on twitter he was ok to play after the Luton game, got a knock but was only brought off as a precaution. Should start tomorrow, I mean he played through a double hernia for a couple games at the end of last season, so the bloke can take a knock.

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Stemania wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 11:49
19Yorke wrote: 11 Jan 2018, 11:38 Kevin Wimmer is only 4.2 and Stoke's fixtures are green and kind from GW24-29. Not sure he'll keep his place when Martins Indi and Shawcross are back, though. Not sure Stoke will keep a lot of clean sheets either, but I've kept him since GW8 wildcard so might just keep hold for a while longer :mrgreen:
Potentially a good spot there. I don't think I'm going to have enough frees to be making too many defensive transfers (might just have one though), but he could be a good cheeky cut-price short term pick indeed. My only real problems with him are
1) He's Wimmer
2) Stoke's defence
but maybe a new manager can remedy at least one of those. :lol:
Item 1 there a bit hard to remedy for any manager I guess :lol: Probably wouldn't spend a transfer on him I think, despite the fixtures, unless the D5 is non-playing and really needs replacement.

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If I take a third cheapie (to add to Masuaku and Dunk) it would be Dummett at the moment. I wouldn't expect too many points, but he'll be playable this week and in about half of the next 10 games. For 4.2, you can't ask for anything more.

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What about this Edwards fella at 4.1? Getting games for Stoke

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Billy Bongo wrote: 14 Jan 2018, 18:57 What about this Edwards fella at 4.1?

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New manager - too risky

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