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Geri wrote:
gallus wrote:
Terry Henry wrote:
cesc408 wrote:Kane and Jesus upfront in 90% of teams
Yep Kane 12.5 and Jesus10.5 first on my team sheet, then Sanchez11.5 (if he's still here) Alli10.0, Coutinho9.0, King7.5 and a couple of Chelsea defenders6.5. I'll then scrape the barrel with whatever cash I have left.
That's 66.5 for 8 players. You have 33.5 left for the other 7. Good luck with that :D

That remaining 33.5 got my hopes up that this kind of team is easy to have without much sacrifices but sadly there are only 26m left for the rest of the team
With only the one defender at 6.5 it'll leave you 32.5M for 8 players. So just over 4.0 each

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Geri wrote:
gallus wrote:
Terry Henry wrote:
cesc408 wrote:Kane and Jesus upfront in 90% of teams
Yep Kane 12.5 and Jesus10.5 first on my team sheet, then Sanchez11.5 (if he's still here) Alli10.0, Coutinho9.0, King7.5 and a couple of Chelsea defenders6.5. I'll then scrape the barrel with whatever cash I have left.
That's 66.5 for 8 players. You have 33.5 left for the other 7. Good luck with that :D

That remaining 33.5 got my hopes up that this kind of team is easy to have without much sacrifices but sadly there are only 26m left for the rest of the team
You're right, I forgot King.

Next season will be like any other, you can't start with more than 2-3 premiums. And all players who have scored over 200 this year will be premium priced.

Once you pick your subs (2*4.0, 2*4.5) you only have 83 left to spend. Two premiums cut that down to 60, and you still have to buy 9 starters with that.
Terry Henry wrote: With only the one defender at 6.5 it'll leave you 32.5M for 8 players. So just over 4.0 each
You still need one more mid and one more striker at 4.5 though. You'd be 0.5 short at those prices.

Kane, Jesus, Alonso and King is a realistic start I think. There will be bargains anyway, a Newcastle striker will probably cost 6.5 and City mids like Silva and Sane might be available for 7.5.

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maradonash wrote:
Even if he did only finish on 25 goals, that would still be a goal every 100 minutes (Lukaku 131, Aguero 120, Alexis 134).
As it happens, he did get 29 and that works out at a goal every 87 minutes!!
Michy Batshuayi - 5 goals in 235 minutes, a goal every 47 minutes :D

I'm hoping he'll priced at 6.5 due to the lack of pitch time and will go on loan to WBA, front three: Kane, Jesus, Batshuayi

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Payet wrote:I expect Marcos Alonso to be 7.0 at the start of the season
But classed as a defender or midfielder?

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Paulista wrote:
Payet wrote:I expect Marcos Alonso to be 7.0 at the start of the season
But classed as a defender or midfielder?
5.5 mid

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Woah, I totally ignored the posibbility Alonso could be listed as a midfielder.

As a defender, I expect him to cost 7.0
As a midfielder, it would be 6.5

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Payet wrote:Woah, I totally ignored the posibbility Alonso could be listed as a midfielder.

As a defender, I expect him to cost 7.0
As a midfielder, it would be 6.5
No way, the difference has to be over 1.0. He gains around 50 points during the season as a defender. 1.0 is worth about 20 points. 5.5 as a mid, 7.5 as a defender.

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7 and 5.5 would be my guesses and I don't think I'm going with him in any of those cases. 6.5 and 5 on the other side might be tempting but not realistic IMO.

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He will be 12.5 i think and I buy him at that

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Geri wrote:7 and 5.5 would be my guesses and I don't think I'm going with him in any of those cases. 6.5 and 5 on the other side might be tempting but not realistic IMO.
I'd buy him at 7.5 if he's classified as defender. He scored 5.7 PPG. For comparison, KDB scored 5.5 PPG this year.

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I'd have Kane at 13m tbh

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12-12.5

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Billy Bongo wrote:I'd have Kane at 13m tbh

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Yeah a consistent captain like him is a must, even at 13mn. Be interesting to see how much Sanchez/Alli/Eriksen are too if they're still in the prem; Surely not 10.5mn for the Spurs duo though their totals reflect this...

It feels there are a lot of expensive options that will be 'worth' the outlay next season. Makes it really tough as anyone could points explode at any time and with a limited budget at the start, many will miss out. Hope it whittles down a bit tbh.

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Really struggle to see who else will be the first name on the team sheet. So long as Spurs keep their team together and their fixtures are at least semi-decent. Will probably have to sacrifice Alli/Erikson at the beginning though unless their fixtures are brilliant. Still a long summer to go!

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Doesn't he usually get of to a slow start and picks up around the end of October.

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The Username wrote:Doesn't he usually get of to a slow start and picks up around the end of October.
He also had two international competitions before. If he gets some rest in theory he should be fine.

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I really don't think Harry Kane is that essential.

In fact, I think Aguero will outscore him next season if MCI upgrade their team with two good side backs (Kyle Waker + some decent LWB for example). Guardiola's system is something where Aguero is like a ''fish in the sea''.

However, there is always a risk of stupid rotations of Pep.

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People in this thread seem to be suggesting that Jesus will be 10.0 or 10.5 next season. Am I missing something?

Kane P90: 7.99
Aguero P90: 6.56
Jesus P90: 9.26

It's not a massive sample size admittedly, but it's not a tiny one either, (651 minutes). Jesus should really be at least 12.0 next season imo.

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@FH - if Jesus had kept that rate or P90 for an entire season then it's possible we'd see that sort of hike. But...

- possibly not first choice centre forward
- possibly playing wide as part of a front three
- little FPL pedigree
- minutes next season - who knows

So I think with those possibles, he'll be priced very similar to KDB IMO. Certainly less than Aguero.

Value pick? Quite possibly :)

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dino1980 wrote:@FH - if Jesus had kept that rate or P90 for an entire season then it's possible we'd see that sort of hike. But...

- possibly not first choice centre forward
- possibly playing wide as part of a front three
- little FPL pedigree
- minutes next season - who knows

So I think with those possibles, he'll be priced very similar to KDB IMO. Certainly less than Aguero.

Value pick? Quite possibly :)
Jesus was getting points even with Aguero back though, it doesn't seem to affect him too much if formation-wise he is 'playing wide' because in the actual game he looks to get into the centre of the box for tap-ins regardless.

I wouldn't worry about his minutes next season either, he looks like he will start when fit. It's Sterling that has to worry about his starting place now imo.

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SuperGrover wrote:I say 13.0. Aguero was 13.0 this year and Kane should be similarly priced.
On fantasy fix predicted prices he's 12 and kun is 12.5

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All of Jesus' points came from games v mid/low teams so not a representative sample (as well as being too small).

From watching him play, I haven't been that impressed (still looks inferior to Aguero IMO). That said, Pep seems to favour him strongly so will be a serous contender for our teams if not priced too high.

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DAREEL wrote:
SuperGrover wrote:I say 13.0. Aguero was 13.0 this year and Kane should be similarly priced.
On fantasy fix predicted prices he's 12 and kun is 12.5
That seems low to me but what do I know. I would think Aguero would drop to 12 as well.

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Those two end of season hat tricks will have added an extra million onto what he would have cost.

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What do you think would be Lukaku's price if he goes back to Chelsea?

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10.5-11.5 cannot really see it being too much more if he does go then I guess 3-4-3 will be the main choice with de Jesus/Kane/Lukaku upfront although maybe de Jesus to say Sane and a cheaper 3rd striker.

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