When will Chelsea win the league & rotation.
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When will Chelsea win the league & rotation.
Anyone worried?
League most likely won, and their two games will be against teams most likely nothing to play for so everyone pretty much on the beach, so we pre load in Chelsea and Watford cover and in that week who will play?
Batshoes Ake who knows, even the useful Capoue bb fodder could be rested
The bb in 37 could be brutal
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League most likely won, and their two games will be against teams most likely nothing to play for so everyone pretty much on the beach, so we pre load in Chelsea and Watford cover and in that week who will play?
Batshoes Ake who knows, even the useful Capoue bb fodder could be rested
The bb in 37 could be brutal
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Yeah I'll be avoiding Chelsea and Watford. There'll be other choices with teams who will be desperate for points...probably.
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Yes that's the hard bit, for those already wildcarded it's 3 or more transfers to sell Costa Alonso and Watford fodder
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A good exercise would be to see what Conte did at Juve. I plan to do this at some point, certainly before I wildcard.
I've read a few articles that suggest he didn't rotate at Juve even once they had all but won the league.
I've read a few articles that suggest he didn't rotate at Juve even once they had all but won the league.
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What did he do in Juve after they had clinched the title? Did he rotate then?Cars and Mané wrote:A good exercise would be to see what Conte did at Juve. I plan to do this at some point, certainly before I wildcard.
I've read a few articles that suggest he didn't rotate at Juve even once they had all but won the league.
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I suppose if they are in the FA cup final he wont want to rotate his team out of form but you'd think some would get a rest
Spurs have great fixtures and i think chelsea would have to match them to have it all sewn up by 37
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Re: Chelsea in 37
On the other hand, one could say that the more games his first XI play together, the more prepared and understanding the team will have together for the Champions League campaign next season.
If Costa is leaving in the summer, then Batshyui may get a couple of games. Probably Terry will get a few farewell games too.
But Week 37 is a long ways away yet.
If Costa is leaving in the summer, then Batshyui may get a couple of games. Probably Terry will get a few farewell games too.
But Week 37 is a long ways away yet.
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Well that's what I'm suggesting we seek to find out. I definitely will before I wildcard. Will post my findings if no one else does it in the interim.Finisher1 wrote:What did he do in Juve after they had clinched the title? Did he rotate then?
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Spurs fixtures do turn a bit though for weeks 35-38. ARS/whu/MAN and hul on the last day who may need something to stay up.Billy Bongo wrote:Spurs have great fixtures and i think chelsea would have to match them to have it all sewn up by 37
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Though a DGW could be in there somewhere if it isn't pencilled in for 34.
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I don't think there's as much rotation as people think when the title is won tbh
It's more about taking the foot off the gas than the rotation, for me.
I wish they'd set these later DGWs in stone and get it over with :p
It's more about taking the foot off the gas than the rotation, for me.
I wish they'd set these later DGWs in stone and get it over with :p
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There could be plenty of rotation, who knows.
Manager may want to give players more games in order to get their appearances up for a chance of a winners medal (Can't remember appearances needed, used to be 10)
Wasn't it not to long ago Chelsea won it and got a guard of honour from UTD, Yet Chelsea rested all there main team and it was basically players who had hardly played got the honour? Remember something along those lines as people were moaning saying the players walking out didn't deserve it.
I have Alonso who I am slightly worried could be rested when the jobs done. Reported having an injury so could easily happen. Currently a Costa owner too but I can't see him being left out if he is still chasing the golden boot.
Manager may want to give players more games in order to get their appearances up for a chance of a winners medal (Can't remember appearances needed, used to be 10)
Wasn't it not to long ago Chelsea won it and got a guard of honour from UTD, Yet Chelsea rested all there main team and it was basically players who had hardly played got the honour? Remember something along those lines as people were moaning saying the players walking out didn't deserve it.
I have Alonso who I am slightly worried could be rested when the jobs done. Reported having an injury so could easily happen. Currently a Costa owner too but I can't see him being left out if he is still chasing the golden boot.
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Re: Chelsea in 37
I think it's now down to 5 appearances including from the bench. And even at that, the club can seek dispensation for the award of extra medals to players who don't get to 5. So it's unlikely to be a major factor in team selection, I'd've thought.cesc408 wrote:
Manager may want to give players more games in order to get their appearances up for a chance of a winners medal (Can't remember appearances needed, used to be 10)
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So I've had the morning off and thought I'd take a look at the rotation threat. The bottom line is that Conte did appear to like giving many squad players games at Juventus (3 titles from 11/12 to 13/14) after a the title was won. Most first team players still got games but I think just about every player missed at least one game, some missed more than one, and one or two first teamers missed all of the remaining games (e.g., Lichtsteiner, Vucinic in 12/13)!
The rotation was consistent over every outfield position, and disappointingly very few non-first teamers came in a played all of the remaining games (which is what we'd want for a DGW37). Ake for example might be a tough sell if they've won the title, though he'd be mightly tempting gamble at less than 4m - I'm not sure we could be even vaguely confident he would play 2 games.
The one thing that is quite conclusive is the GKs. After winning the title Storari was given all the remaining games in all 3 seasons except for the final match of 13/14 where Buffon did play (but was subbed early, presumably for an ovation). So that's 6 out of 7 games that Storari played and Buffon was dropped for. For me that suggests Begovic (4.7m) has a great chance of being a fantastic GW37 option if they've won the title by then.
In his third season Conte was much less extreme than in his first two, but both years they were already out of Europe so that was certainly never a factor. Only in the first season did they have a Coppa Italia game still to go (and that was a whole week after the final game).
So my conclusion would be that if Chelsea win the title early we should seriously be wary of just about all of their assets - even with players like Hazard/Costa etc. Perhaps Begovic might even turn out to be the best bet to play 2 GW37 games.
The rotation was consistent over every outfield position, and disappointingly very few non-first teamers came in a played all of the remaining games (which is what we'd want for a DGW37). Ake for example might be a tough sell if they've won the title, though he'd be mightly tempting gamble at less than 4m - I'm not sure we could be even vaguely confident he would play 2 games.
The one thing that is quite conclusive is the GKs. After winning the title Storari was given all the remaining games in all 3 seasons except for the final match of 13/14 where Buffon did play (but was subbed early, presumably for an ovation). So that's 6 out of 7 games that Storari played and Buffon was dropped for. For me that suggests Begovic (4.7m) has a great chance of being a fantastic GW37 option if they've won the title by then.
In his third season Conte was much less extreme than in his first two, but both years they were already out of Europe so that was certainly never a factor. Only in the first season did they have a Coppa Italia game still to go (and that was a whole week after the final game).
So my conclusion would be that if Chelsea win the title early we should seriously be wary of just about all of their assets - even with players like Hazard/Costa etc. Perhaps Begovic might even turn out to be the best bet to play 2 GW37 games.
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Here's the full lineups (they were already out or Europe all three years) - the 'first elevens' were obviously subject to some rotation throughout the season:
11/12 (Won league in game 37) 1st eleven, 433:
Buffon(c)
Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Bonnucci, Chellini
Marchisio, Pirlo, Vidal
Pepe, Matri, Vucinic
Team for final game (Cuppa Italia 7 days later):
Storari
Lichtsteiner, Bonnuci, Chellini, Estigarribia
Marrone, Pirlo, Padoin
Giaccherini, Borriello, Del Piero(c)
(Barzagli/Marchisio/Pepe/Matri/Vucinic benched, Buffon left out of squad, Vidal suspended)
12/13 (Won league in game 35) 1st eleven, 352:
Buffon(c)
Barzagli, Bonnucci, Chellini
Lichtsteiner, Marchisio, Pirlo, Vidal, Asamoah
Giovinco, Vucinic
(with Pogba getting a decent number of games at CM)
Teams for final 3 games:
Storari
Marrone, Caceras, Chellini
Isla, Giaccherini, Padoin, Pirlo, De Ceglie(c)
Quagliarella, Matri
(Bonucci/Lichtsteiner/Marchisio/Vidal/Vucinic/Giovinco benched, Buffon left out of squad, Asamoah injured)
Storari
Barzagli, Bonucci, Chellini(c)
Isla, Marchisio, Vidal, Marrone, Giaccerini
Giovinco, Matri
(Lichtsteiner/Vucinic/Buffon benched, Pirlo left out of squad, Asamoah injured)
Storari
Caceras, Bonucci, Chellini(c)
Isla, Giaccherini, Padoin, Pirlo, De Ceglie
Giovinco, Quagliarella
(Lichtsteiner/Vucinic/Barzagli/Vidal/Marchisio/Buffon benched, Asamoah injured)
13/14 (Won league after game 35) 1st eleven, 352:
Buffon(c)
Barzagli, Bonucci, Chellini
Lichtsteiner, Pogba, Pirlo, Vidal, Asamoah
Tevez, Llorente
(with Marchisio rotating a bit in CM)
Teams for final 3 games:
Storari
Barzagli, Ogbonna, Chellini(c)
Lichtsteiner, Pogba, Padoin, Marchisio, Peluso
Osvaldo, Giovinco
(Bonucci/Pirlo/Vidal/Asamoah/Llorente/Tevez/Buffon benched)
Storari
Barzagli, Bonucci, Chellini(c)
Lichtsteiner, Pogba, Pirlo, Padoin, Asamoah
Tevez, Llorente
(Buffon/Marchisio benched, Vidal injured)
Buffon(c)
Ogbonna, Bonucci, Caceras
Lichtsteiner, Pogba, Pirlo, Marchisio, Asamoah
Tevez, Llorente
(Barzagli benched, Vidal injured, Chellini suspended)
Buffon (subbed on 53)
11/12 (Won league in game 37) 1st eleven, 433:
Buffon(c)
Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Bonnucci, Chellini
Marchisio, Pirlo, Vidal
Pepe, Matri, Vucinic
Team for final game (Cuppa Italia 7 days later):
Storari
Lichtsteiner, Bonnuci, Chellini, Estigarribia
Marrone, Pirlo, Padoin
Giaccherini, Borriello, Del Piero(c)
(Barzagli/Marchisio/Pepe/Matri/Vucinic benched, Buffon left out of squad, Vidal suspended)
12/13 (Won league in game 35) 1st eleven, 352:
Buffon(c)
Barzagli, Bonnucci, Chellini
Lichtsteiner, Marchisio, Pirlo, Vidal, Asamoah
Giovinco, Vucinic
(with Pogba getting a decent number of games at CM)
Teams for final 3 games:
Storari
Marrone, Caceras, Chellini
Isla, Giaccherini, Padoin, Pirlo, De Ceglie(c)
Quagliarella, Matri
(Bonucci/Lichtsteiner/Marchisio/Vidal/Vucinic/Giovinco benched, Buffon left out of squad, Asamoah injured)
Storari
Barzagli, Bonucci, Chellini(c)
Isla, Marchisio, Vidal, Marrone, Giaccerini
Giovinco, Matri
(Lichtsteiner/Vucinic/Buffon benched, Pirlo left out of squad, Asamoah injured)
Storari
Caceras, Bonucci, Chellini(c)
Isla, Giaccherini, Padoin, Pirlo, De Ceglie
Giovinco, Quagliarella
(Lichtsteiner/Vucinic/Barzagli/Vidal/Marchisio/Buffon benched, Asamoah injured)
13/14 (Won league after game 35) 1st eleven, 352:
Buffon(c)
Barzagli, Bonucci, Chellini
Lichtsteiner, Pogba, Pirlo, Vidal, Asamoah
Tevez, Llorente
(with Marchisio rotating a bit in CM)
Teams for final 3 games:
Storari
Barzagli, Ogbonna, Chellini(c)
Lichtsteiner, Pogba, Padoin, Marchisio, Peluso
Osvaldo, Giovinco
(Bonucci/Pirlo/Vidal/Asamoah/Llorente/Tevez/Buffon benched)
Storari
Barzagli, Bonucci, Chellini(c)
Lichtsteiner, Pogba, Pirlo, Padoin, Asamoah
Tevez, Llorente
(Buffon/Marchisio benched, Vidal injured)
Buffon(c)
Ogbonna, Bonucci, Caceras
Lichtsteiner, Pogba, Pirlo, Marchisio, Asamoah
Tevez, Llorente
(Barzagli benched, Vidal injured, Chellini suspended)
Buffon (subbed on 53)
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Re: Chelsea in 37
If Chelsea drop points to City. Game on.
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Excellent stuff, thanks Stemania.
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Really good work there, Stem.
So we need to figure out which Chelsea player Conte considers as 'his Chiellini', because the guy only missed one game after they won the league.
And yes, Begovic could definitely be a great option. However that is the only area I think I already got my players for... (Caballero & Pickford)
So we need to figure out which Chelsea player Conte considers as 'his Chiellini', because the guy only missed one game after they won the league.
And yes, Begovic could definitely be a great option. However that is the only area I think I already got my players for... (Caballero & Pickford)
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Yeah, Chellini does seem to have been the one and only mainstay (and the game he missed was due to suspension). He captained the team in 5 of the 7 games too (with Buffon out) - maybe that's a clue? Cahillini?
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Think I'll stick with two of them, and get ready to shift them once the title has been won
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Too early to call. Only takes dropped points vs MC tomorrow and they could be just 4p clear. UTD to come in a couple more game weeks, boring UTD will probably go for a 0-0.
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Ake, RLC, Zouma, Aina, Chalobah, maybe Batshuayi. Not sure why Kenedy disappeared he might have been a decent backup to Alonso. Willian hasn't had much gametime so I think he could be a starter.Billy Bongo wrote:Anyone worried?
League most likely won, and their two games will be against teams most likely nothing to play for so everyone pretty much on the beach, so we pre load in Chelsea and Watford cover and in that week who will play?
Batshoes Ake who knows, even the useful Capoue bb fodder could be rested
The bb in 37 could be brutal
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Not necessarily relevant to GW37, but I've just gone Chelsea-less for the first time this season. Not sure whether that's brave or stupid. Probably the latter!
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I'd prefer a cuppa tea myself.Stemania wrote:Cuppa Italia
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It's not just Chelsea though . Spurs could have second place wrapped up by then. And Arsenal / Man Utd could have no chance of top 4 by then
Alonso / Luiz owners should be worried . They've been playing through injury so surely won't play on if league won
Alonso / Luiz owners should be worried . They've been playing through injury so surely won't play on if league won
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Re: Chelsea in 37
Fingers crossed City win tonight ....the league will still be wide open then
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Azpilicueta.Joccki_10 wrote:Really good work there, Stem.
So we need to figure out which Chelsea player Conte considers as 'his Chiellini',
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When will Chelsea win the league & rotation.
Kane - Costa - Gabbiadini/Benteke is very likely going to be my front line. With thoughts of potentially having Jesus.
Can't see Chelsea wrapping the title up until the 2nd game of the DGW37. So I'm looking to take a punt on Spurs taking it down to the 2nd last GW and pushing Chelsea into playing their full strength XI at least until Chelsea vs Watford (H). It makes Costa an extremely good pick. But I will wait until after the Everton/Arsenal fixtures to commit.
The good thing about DGW37 is Spurs play after Chelsea. Which means Conte will likely be forced into playing his best XI because he will not yet have the outcome of the Spurs vs Leicester fixture & unlikely to have the league wrapped up before the Watford fixture which makes Spurs result vs Leicester irrelevant.
A quick points prediction overview;
Chelsea are on 78pts currently and Spurs on 74pts
GW35. Chelsea vs EVE (A) Draw +79pts | Spurs vs Arsenal (H) Win +77pts
GW36. Chelsea vs Boro (H) Win +82pts | Spurs vs WHU (A) Win +80pts
GW37 Chelsea vs WBA (A) Win +85pts | Spurs vs United (H) Draw +81pts
GW37 Chelsea vs WAT(H) Win +88pts | Spurs vs Leicester (A) Win/Draw? +84
GW38 Chelsea vs SUN (H) Win +91pts | Spurs vs Hull (A) Win +87pts
Can't see Chelsea wrapping the title up until the 2nd game of the DGW37. So I'm looking to take a punt on Spurs taking it down to the 2nd last GW and pushing Chelsea into playing their full strength XI at least until Chelsea vs Watford (H). It makes Costa an extremely good pick. But I will wait until after the Everton/Arsenal fixtures to commit.
The good thing about DGW37 is Spurs play after Chelsea. Which means Conte will likely be forced into playing his best XI because he will not yet have the outcome of the Spurs vs Leicester fixture & unlikely to have the league wrapped up before the Watford fixture which makes Spurs result vs Leicester irrelevant.
A quick points prediction overview;
Chelsea are on 78pts currently and Spurs on 74pts
GW35. Chelsea vs EVE (A) Draw +79pts | Spurs vs Arsenal (H) Win +77pts
GW36. Chelsea vs Boro (H) Win +82pts | Spurs vs WHU (A) Win +80pts
GW37 Chelsea vs WBA (A) Win +85pts | Spurs vs United (H) Draw +81pts
GW37 Chelsea vs WAT(H) Win +88pts | Spurs vs Leicester (A) Win/Draw? +84
GW38 Chelsea vs SUN (H) Win +91pts | Spurs vs Hull (A) Win +87pts
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Thanks, good points and insight! Makes me think to finally get Alonso in my team. (...)
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Well if Chelsea only draw against Everton, I can see it going down to the last game. I'm glad I'm wildcarding next week as I get to see that result (and the Spurs result of course which is not a formality) and decide how many Chelsea I want. Of course they'll rotate a few positions when they've won; some players wanting winners medals!
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Re: When will Chelsea win the league & rotation.
Spurs are gonna win it !
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