The Seamus Coleman Injury Thread

[Aldershot Rejects]

I might even downgrade Coleman to a base price defender. There's no such rule as "you must have an attacking premium defender in your team because otherwise you team is unbalanced".

I'm surprised so many are going to do like-for-like transfer to Walker, Coleman, Clyne etc. I would have thought there were many teams without Costa or Sanchez at the moment, in which case buying one of them and downgrading Coleman would be a reasonable move.

You probably won't approve of my defence then. Walker should fit in nicely alongside Alonso, Baines, MacAuley and Jones. Base price defenders, who needs them?

[Aldershot Rejects]

Thanks Mav, that's really interesting although I'm not 100% sure who shades it out of Walker and Valencia. Personally, I'm probably going to go with Walker despite the ManU double coming up. It's such a shame that Rose is not fit at the moment.

PVA is interesting as well for me post-WC. If Sunderland did manage to tighten up defensively (not that I am expecting it), they have a decent run of fixtures for the last few games. Cedric v Bertrand is another one that is interesting me post GW34 (and WC). I'd always assumed I would go with Bertrand but Cedric seems to come out well on the basis of these figures.

I'm glad you're thinking that way as Walker fits my team better and I'm probably favouring him. I really do need the defensive cover in GW32 and 33 and I feel that perhaps Valencia would be better as a Brunt replacement in GW34. Stats-wise it's pretty close between Valencia and Walker, I think Valencia has been very good of late but I have a slight concern about him being rotated this week and then they have Chelsea in GW33.

The main thing that annoys me about owning Walker is paying over the odds for the same points, but over the next 5 GWs I'm struggling to see a better potential defender.

I suspect I'll be wildcarding for GW35 as my team's fixtures are pretty bad that week and they won't be made any brighter by any Middlesbrough or Palace players in for the DGW That does however encourage me to look at ways of getting the high risk players like PVA in though it's hard as there are limited spaces in my team in terms of who I want to bench in GW34.

If I already had Valdes or Hennesey rather than Pickford as my second keeper, I'd be favouring the BB I think and boosting in players like PVA, Valdes/Hennesey, Friend and De Roon.

I'm probably going back to 4 at the back some weeks to enable Sanchez & then Zlatan and Walker justs fits better. I suspect Valencia will get rotated at some point whereas I can just forget Walker.

I'm wildcarding in GW35 as well. I've seriously looked at BB for GW34 partly because any doubler I bring in gives me benching problems. Sadly, I don't think I've got quite enough transfers to make it work unless I neglect Sanchez (and Jones is fit again by then). I still have a couple of weeks to make that decision so I haven't totally ruled it out.

[Mav3rick]

That's my worry too with Valencia, I mean, I probably will own him for the DGW as he seems to be one of the best options, but in the run to GW34 there are still 4 weeks of points to be won and Walker (or any Spurs defender really) looks the most potent option in those 4 weeks. If Coleman hadn't have been injured then I'd have let him be so this is in some ways a bit of an opportunity to gain more points.

I can't really work out why the FFS projections have got Alderweireld above Walker, it can't be BPs and the only thing different is a slightly improved goal threat. Which I suppose could be worth thinking about.

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I can't really work out why the FFS projections have got Alderweireld above Walker, it can't be BPs and the only thing different is a slightly improved goal threat. Which I suppose could be worth thinking about.

Just a bandwagon thing?

[Mav3rick]

I can't really work out why the FFS projections have got Alderweireld above Walker, it can't be BPs and the only thing different is a slightly improved goal threat. Which I suppose could be worth thinking about.

Just a bandwagon thing?

I don't think so, it's all supposed to be number driven. I think it's just the goal threat that Alderweireld has, but I'm not sure that's a "quality" differential to chase. It is worth considering though even if we end up dismissing it quite quickly.

[Aldershot Rejects]

I can't really work out why the FFS projections have got Alderweireld above Walker, it can't be BPs and the only thing different is a slightly improved goal threat. Which I suppose could be worth thinking about.

Just a bandwagon thing?

I don't think so, it's all supposed to be number driven. I think it's just the goal threat that Alderweireld has, but I'm not sure that's a "quality" differential to chase. It is worth considering though even if we end up dismissing it quite quickly.

Given that Alderweireld hasn't scored a league goal this season, I'm quite happy to ignore his goal threat (even if he did score 4 last year) His BPs have dried up completely as well.

At the moment Walker seems far more reliable whilst Alderweireld feels like a punt on the basis that he is 'overdue' a goal.

[Paulista]

I suspect Valencia will get rotated at some point whereas I can just forget Walker.

That's my worry too with Valencia, I mean, I probably will own him for the DGW as he seems to be one of the best options, but in the run to GW34 there are still 4 weeks of points to be won and Walker (or any Spurs defender really) looks the most potent option in those 4 weeks.

I also had my worry about Valencia travelling back from South America with United's 9 April fixtures. So I actually decided to hop on a safer Vertonghen (for Coleman). Not very glamorous, but Spurs' next 5 are very nice indeed. The 0.9 saving over Walker is earmarked for Lukaku to Ibra in GW34. Not much chance of attacking returns with Vertonghen of course but I still think a solid set-and-forget pick for a while. Now watch him get injured for Belgium tomorrow.

[OIEIAO]

PVA is interesting as well for me post-WC. If Sunderland did manage to tighten up defensively (not that I am expecting it), they have a decent run of fixtures for the last few games.

Not sure which part of this sentence might be a typo ... but our "glue friend" plays for Palace, now.

[Aldershot Rejects]

PVA is interesting as well for me post-WC. If Sunderland did manage to tighten up defensively (not that I am expecting it), they have a decent run of fixtures for the last few games.

Not sure which part of this sentence might be a typo ... but our "glue friend" plays for Palace, now.

It's a sign of getting old.

[Stemania]

Thanks Mav, that's really interesting although I'm not 100% sure who shades it out of Walker and Valencia. Personally, I'm probably going to go with Walker despite the ManU double coming up. It's such a shame that Rose is not fit at the moment.

Yep, I'd be all over Rose if he was fit.

I think I'm likely going to end up down the Walker path too - probably funding it with Holgate (if I get convinced during the week that he'll start) or Stephens.

The priority for me is to make sure I have a plan in place for the Ibra cash to be available come GW34 so I'll have to check Walker fits in with that long term. Will probably also depend on the Kane prognosis (hence Son as a short term midfield funder). I'd take Davies if we knew he'd get 4 more games, but Rose is due back in the horrible hinterland of GW31-33 as far as I recall.

Having turned down Walker for 5.7m back in the GW6 wildard to fund a disastrous short term Janssen punt (albeit over Deeney) it'll hurt to pay 6.4m for him after all those points...

[Aldershot Rejects]

Having turned down Walker for 5.7m back in the GW6 wildard to fund a disastrous short term Janssen punt (albeit over Deeney) it'll hurt to pay 6.4m for him after all those points...

Ouch. I've been 1 transfer away from getting him in for the last couple of months, but there has always been another priority. Having said that my defence has served me well so I can't complain. But now is the time

[Pirlo's Beard]

That's my worry too with Valencia, I mean, I probably will own him for the DGW as he seems to be one of the best options, but in the run to GW34 there are still 4 weeks of points to be won and Walker (or any Spurs defender really) looks the most potent option in those 4 weeks. If Coleman hadn't have been injured then I'd have let him be so this is in some ways a bit of an opportunity to gain more points.

You've basically just summed up what I've been wrestling with internally since Coleman's injury. Valencia is no doubt the "safe" replacement, with the extra game and all, but Walker simply looks a better bet for the next four games. And when you consider that Valencia's extra game is City away, is that really much of an advantage?

Of course it's always an advantage really, having an extra game. It's a full extra 90 minutes where a player can (expectedly or unexpectedly) grab a clean sheet, score, assist, whatever. But factoring in: a) the difficulty of United's fixtures (EVE, CHE and mci in the next six); b) the potential for rotation with the Europa League (although Valencia is perhaps more secure than most in that United team); and c) the chance of a rest for Valencia as early as this weekend after all his international travel. Valencia should still be useful for the double but I prefer Walker right now. Spurs are just a better team than United.

I'll probably be looking at Brunt Valencia for GW34, as was the original plan for me before Coleman's injury anyway.

[Hotstepper]

I mean Danny Rose no ill will, but would be nice to hear he was going to be out at least a month more. Bendy Davies it would be.

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I'm surprised that so many seem to have neither Valencia nor Walker.

[Pirlo's Beard]

I'm surprised that so many seem to have neither Coleman nor Alonso.

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Should I get Coleman then?

[Joccki_10]

I've heard Rose is targeting a return to training this week.

For myself, I think I'm going for Walker over Valencia this week and might even double up when Rose gets back.

[Finisher1]

Thanks Mav, that's really interesting although I'm not 100% sure who shades it out of Walker and Valencia. Personally, I'm probably going to go with Walker despite the ManU double coming up. It's such a shame that Rose is not fit at the moment.

Yep, I'd be all over Rose if he was fit.

I think I'm likely going to end up down the Walker path too - probably funding it with Holgate (if I get convinced during the week that he'll start) or Stephens.

The priority for me is to make sure I have a plan in place for the Ibra cash to be available come GW34 so I'll have to check Walker fits in with that long term. Will probably also depend on the Kane prognosis (hence Son as a short term midfield funder). I'd take Davies if we knew he'd get 4 more games, but Rose is due back in the horrible hinterland of GW31-33 as far as I recall.

Having turned down Walker for 5.7m back in the GW6 wildard to fund a disastrous short term Janssen punt (albeit over Deeney) it'll hurt to pay 6.4m for him after all those points...

Please tell us in advance so we know to avoid a defender you pick

[Stemania]

The long awaited Danny Rose update is very un-explicit, but sounds gloomy enough to me to bail on the Walker move and Jump onto Davies.

Apparently he's seeing a specialist tomorrow to determine when he can return and according to Poch "could return to action later than Harry Kane, but hopes they will be back at a similar time".

Rose yet to return to training so I'm happy enough that Davies will play GW30-33/34, after which he can be wildcard out.

[Lucky]

With Coleman out and now also Funes Mori (possibly until the rest of the season according to BBC), does Holgate not become a real alternative? At 4.0m he would be really attractive for the rest of the season allowing to upgrade in other positions.

Source:

Posted at 13:48
Everton are really struggling for the players at the back after Seamus Coleman's leg was broken last week. Now Argentina centre-half Ramiro Funes Mori is likely to miss the rest of the season with a knee injury picked up in the World Cup qualifier against Bolivia on Tuesday night...

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

[Stemania]

Holgate in (for Funes Mori) was my planned transfer in to fund Walker (for Coleman). I like him at 4.0m and may even still go that way with a budget nearer 5m. He looks very likely to be RB for the rest of the season.

[MoSe]

the point is, in GW30-31 he'd only be in as enabler
can't you really wait GW32?
how much do you fear he'd rise by then?

[MoSe]

Holgate in (for Funes Mori) was my planned transfer in to fund Walker (for Coleman).

FM in the meanwhile went from yellow to red, and his hourly NTO went from -0.40% to -1.00%
no influence on my SP tho

[Lucky]

the point is, in GW30-31 he'd only be in as enabler
can't you really wait GW32?
how much do you fear he'd rise by then?

No need for me to move this week. I only have got Jones (ManU) to get rid of. I put him in for the rest of the season two weeks ago So now it is a question whether Jones will continue to fall pretty quickly. I just want to avoid one dropping and the other one rising.