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What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

Retain Both
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18%
Keep Ibra, Sell Alexis
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23%
Keep Alexis, Sell Ibra
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29%
Sell Both
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15%
Unsure at this stage
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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

Post by MoSe »

Personally, back to topic and to the current suggestion

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         26  27   28   29  30  31
Sánchez --- liv (LEI) wba MCI WHU
Hazard  SWA whu (WAT) stk CRY MCI
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My current GW26 lineup is
Foster (Grant)
Azpi FunesMori Robertson (Holgate Koscielny)
Eriksen Alli Phillips Fletcher (Sánchez)
Kane Lukaku Defoe

I've already jerked my 2 FT, and have £1.8m itb
I bought Sánchez at 11.0m, so I'd sell at 11.4m, and should accept that I might lose some 0.1m budget if/when I'll get him back, that's not the main issue

Shipping Sánchez to bring in, for instance, Hazard, would mean to me to take a -4p hit to play Hazard in place of Fletcher, and that would have to be justified by a 4p greater points projection (which is incidentally true acc.to FFS Haz 7.09 Flet 2.78, but not by FFF Haz 6.13 Flet 3.39 :? )
Then Hazard has a marginally better expectation than Sánchez for GW27 too, and they're both likely to have a blank GW28

I'd feel stymied to spend a transfer on a GW28 blanker when atm I only have 7 sure players for GW28 (well, 6 plus Holgate :roll: )
But actually, regardless I take this hit now or not, I'll have the same 2 FT (one in GW27 and one in GW28) to address that issue...
OTOH, if I switch Sánchez now to a BOU/HUL/SWA/WHM mid instead of Haz (not EVE/WBA for me, as I already have 3 slots full for these clubs),
I'd have one more GW28 player now, plus the 2FT in next two gws anyway...

So,
on one hand I'd just need to expect Hazard(SWA,whu) to score 4p more than Fletcher(BOU)+Sánchez(liv), to justify the hit now.
on the other hand, given that I'll take this hit now (which is not granted yet), I should better compare Hazard vs for instance
- Siggy(che,BUR,hul)
- Antonio(wat,CHE,bou) [or Snoddy/Lanzini]
- Stanislas(wba,mun,WHU) [or King/Fraser]
- Evandro/Grosicki(BUR,lei,SWA), best fixtures but an almost blind "gamble"
Sincerely, none of the above is promising with their 3 fixtures to exceed Hazard returns in 2 next fixtures.
Maybe Siggy, but he's not expected to better Fletcher in GW26 @che!

In summary,
a GW26 hit to increase my GW28 XI quota looks hardly justifiable, barring adventurous gambles
a GW26 hit can be considered only to bet on positive points balance for GW26-27 from Hazard... and it's not a clear-cut decision imho

But as the FA Cup 5th round this weekend will bring some certainty (barring replays) on GW28 blankers,
and as I'll only lose 0.1m Selling Value unless Sánchez falls 3 times in next 4 nights,
I accept to eventually lose 0.2m budget (-0.1m from the sale, +0.1m on Hazard purchase) to postpone such decision till monday

Besides, the Koscielny injury yesterday in Munich is an added worry to monitor and eventually deal with :roll:

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

Post by Joccki_10 »

MoSe, how many hands do you have? :lol:

Just wait for the FA Cup results. If Burnley get knocked out, Mané will be a great option.

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

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@ MoSe

FPLS used to be as good or better. My impression this season was that it had become less reliable than FFF and in some cases was way out. So much so that I rarely even look at it now. Nothing scientific about it, just based on experience.

On Sanchez, the perspective changes according to current sale value. Having (mistakenly) sold him when I thought he was injured and bought him back for 11.5m (sale value 11.6m) the idea of selling him with blank-liv-blank is pretty self-evident. There's really no way I can lose money (I'll for sure be able to buy back cheaper in GW29) and he isn't likely to hurt me in those 3 weeks.

For someone that bought at 11.0 or 10.9 the situation is more equal and I guess it depends on what your team will look like in GW26&28 if you bench him. I wouldn't much like having no Chelsea attack for GW26-30 though, even with a blank in there.

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

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TheoRiginal wrote:Well, since neither of them have a game on Saturday, I thought I would give them a ring and ask if they fancied a couple of beers and a curry on Friday night.
What did they say?

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

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I think FPLS is more accurate. Despite FFF having Sanchez at -113% he didn't drop; that's a pretty hefty error margin.

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Weisenwolf wrote:I think FPLS is more accurate. Despite FFF having Sanchez at -113% he didn't drop; that's a pretty hefty error margin.
That's one example. FFF doesn't fudge/adjust the delta if an expected rise/fall fails to materialise. FPLS does. But there you go, no point arguing about it. Personally I am more confident about FFF and obviously neither is perfect.

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

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That's very true, they are indicators, nothing more

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blahblah wrote:
TheoRiginal wrote:Well, since neither of them have a game on Saturday, I thought I would give them a ring and ask if they fancied a couple of beers and a curry on Friday night.
What did they say?
Unfortunately Zlatan has four martial arts classes that night and Alexis has been put in detention by Arsene and has to write out "I must not miss penalties" five thousand times.

Both Rooney and Ozil said they could come out to play, but I told them I didn't socialise with losers.

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

Post by Stemania »

The fact that Liverpool now have (lei, BUR) in GW26/28 pretty much confirms a Sanchez to Mane/Firmino move for me I think (already have Coutinho). :D

Now to see whether Ibra to Costa looks good. :mrgreen:

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

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It's going to be a common move I expect

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Looking like Hazard will be a 'nice' 5 game differential for me now that Liverpool have a GW28 and lots are jumping on Mane/Firmino. Unfortunately I know how differential's usually turn out. 3,2,0,3,2 incoming.

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Weisenwolf wrote:It's going to be a common move I expect
It seems quite obvious. Pool have good fixtures in 34 (CPL) and 37 (whu) as well so he would be easy to keep through the doubles.

It's a shame, in a way, as a more difficult decision to sell or keep had the potential to be a real separation point of FPL fortunes.

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

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TheoRiginal wrote:I told them I didn't socialise with losers.
Nor, apparently, does Tony Pulis.

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

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Assuming that City win their Huddersfield replay, I think this decision might have been made for me by the lack of great striking options for GW28 now. Everyone will have Lukaku but my other two strikers currently are Kane and Ibra. Plan I'm looking at the moment will see Sanchez go out to Mane and then other transfers spent on getting bench fodder defenders from Hull and Swansea and maybe Alli to Firmino.

I love Sanchez and bought him at 11.0 so have money tied up in him, but the boring fact is that I think it makes sense to hang on to Ibra and Kane. I'm perfectly happy with players like Phillips, Siggy, Firmino and Mane offering attacking threat GW28 and can then happily wave Kane and Ibra back on the pitch for their solid fixtures.

Am I being too conservative? Where are people sitting on the Ibra and Sanchez topic now?

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

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Sold Sanchez but keeping Ibra (at least until GW27).
Had a lot of money tied up in Sanchez but as I wasn't going to captain him until GW30/31 because of blanks, he wasn't worth keeping (IMO). There aren't too many good fwd options that have no blanks too while there are some good midfield players for GW26/28.

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sunbather wrote:Am I being too conservative? Where are people sitting on the Ibra and Sanchez topic now?
I don't think you are, but then I'm biased because your plan is basically identical to mine!

Did Sánchez to Mané last week. Will likely bring in a Hull and a Swansea defender before GW28 and switch Alli to Coutinho or Firmino. Already have Phillips and Sigurðsson. Holding Ibra and Kane. Will bench Ibra in GW26 and GW28 and captain in GW27.

I don't think there's a risk in not removing Ibra and/or Kane for GW28 because, beyond Lukaku, there really aren't many desirable strikers you'd actually want for that week. Rondón is a beast but rarely scores; Hernández and Llorente are similarly unreliable; Barnes and Gray have a hard fixture; Liverpool play without a striker; Carroll might be a good shout but he's made of [insert flimsy material of your choice here]; King will likely play up front for Bournemouth and he's classified as a midfielder.

Indeed, midfield is where the big points potential for GW28 looks to be, and I'll be rocking a 4-5-1 as a result.

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

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I was planning on keeping both, but it was just too silly not to get rid of Sanchez for Mane, considering Mane's 3 games vs. Sanchez's 1. As for other Liverpool midfielders, having watched a few of their recent games I have little interest in Coutinho and Firminho. Coutinho in particular seems out of sorts.

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

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Pirlo's Beard wrote:
sunbather wrote:Am I being too conservative? Where are people sitting on the Ibra and Sanchez topic now?
I don't think you are, but then I'm biased because your plan is basically identical to mine!

Did Sánchez to Mané last week. Will likely bring in a Hull and a Swansea defender before GW28 and switch Alli to Coutinho or Firmino. Already have Phillips and Sigurðsson. Holding Ibra and Kane. Will bench Ibra in GW26 and GW28 and captain in GW27.

I don't think there's a risk in not removing Ibra and/or Kane for GW28 because, beyond Lukaku, there really aren't many desirable strikers you'd actually want for that week. Rondón is a beast but rarely scores; Hernández and Llorente are similarly unreliable; Barnes and Gray have a hard fixture; Liverpool play without a striker; Carroll might be a good shout but he's made of [insert flimsy material of your choice here]; King will likely play up front for Bournemouth and he's classified as a midfielder.

Indeed, midfield is where the big points potential for GW28 looks to be, and I'll be rocking a 4-5-1 as a result.
Cheers, makes my moves feel validated!

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sunbather wrote:
Pirlo's Beard wrote:
sunbather wrote:Am I being too conservative? Where are people sitting on the Ibra and Sanchez topic now?
I don't think you are, but then I'm biased because your plan is basically identical to mine!

Did Sánchez to Mané last week. Will likely bring in a Hull and a Swansea defender before GW28 and switch Alli to Coutinho or Firmino. Already have Phillips and Sigurðsson. Holding Ibra and Kane. Will bench Ibra in GW26 and GW28 and captain in GW27.

I don't think there's a risk in not removing Ibra and/or Kane for GW28 because, beyond Lukaku, there really aren't many desirable strikers you'd actually want for that week. Rondón is a beast but rarely scores; Hernández and Llorente are similarly unreliable; Barnes and Gray have a hard fixture; Liverpool play without a striker; Carroll might be a good shout but he's made of [insert flimsy material of your choice here]; King will likely play up front for Bournemouth and he's classified as a midfielder.

Indeed, midfield is where the big points potential for GW28 looks to be, and I'll be rocking a 4-5-1 as a result.
Cheers, makes my moves feel validated!
Think I'll end up rocking a 4-5-1 that includes Amat and Lovren and hope for the best! :(

Looking at:

Jaku (1 FT)
Brunt, Williams, Lovren, Amat
Mane (1 FT), Siggy/King (1 FT), Firmino, Phillips, Barkley
Lukaku (c)

with a bench of Valdes/Grant, Pieters, Ibra, Defoe

Then maybe WC GW29 as mentioned elsewhere

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Re: What do you plan to do with Ibra & Alexis?

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Vsz wrote:
sunbather wrote:
Pirlo's Beard wrote:
sunbather wrote:Am I being too conservative? Where are people sitting on the Ibra and Sanchez topic now?
I don't think you are, but then I'm biased because your plan is basically identical to mine!

Did Sánchez to Mané last week. Will likely bring in a Hull and a Swansea defender before GW28 and switch Alli to Coutinho or Firmino. Already have Phillips and Sigurðsson. Holding Ibra and Kane. Will bench Ibra in GW26 and GW28 and captain in GW27.

I don't think there's a risk in not removing Ibra and/or Kane for GW28 because, beyond Lukaku, there really aren't many desirable strikers you'd actually want for that week. Rondón is a beast but rarely scores; Hernández and Llorente are similarly unreliable; Barnes and Gray have a hard fixture; Liverpool play without a striker; Carroll might be a good shout but he's made of [insert flimsy material of your choice here]; King will likely play up front for Bournemouth and he's classified as a midfielder.

Indeed, midfield is where the big points potential for GW28 looks to be, and I'll be rocking a 4-5-1 as a result.
Cheers, makes my moves feel validated!
Think I'll end up rocking a 4-5-1 that includes Amat and Lovren and hope for the best! :(

Looking at:

Jaku (1 FT)
Brunt, Williams, Lovren, Amat
Mane (1 FT), Siggy/King (1 FT), Firmino, Phillips, Barkley
Lukaku (c)

with a bench of Valdes/Grant, Pieters, Ibra, Defoe

Then maybe WC GW29 as mentioned elsewhere
What are your plans now Vsz and Pirlo's Beard after the City news? I might still do Sanchez to Mane and Defoe to Lukaku as planned, but might drop Kane for GW27 now. Alli might go out for Sterling instead now and Kane out for Aguero (which I can do with 0.0 ITB, eek). If City have a double then great: one or both shipped out for GW28 to make up some numbers. If they get knocked out by Huddersfield then they play GW28 too so it's pretty low risk I think.

It does mess up my team structure a bit and burn some transfers but I think Aguero at minimum has to come in and Kane is an obvious candidate rather than Ibra at home to Bournemouth.

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sunbather wrote:What are your plans now Vsz and Pirlo's Beard after the City news?
I don't know about anyone else but my plan is to throw my arms up in the air and run around screaming like a demented lunatic.

This City news has thrown several spanners in the works. The lure of Agüero and potentially Sterling will likely be too strong to ignore. I can't see a way of getting the team I want for GW27 and GW28 without taking multiple hits.

I'm planning on taking multiple hits. :D

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Ended up getting rid of both! I guess time will tell whether that was wise or not!

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Pirlo's Beard wrote: I don't know about anyone else but my plan is to throw my arms up in the air and run around screaming like a demented lunatic.

I'm planning on taking multiple hits. :D
So same as most GW's :lol:

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blahblah wrote:
Pirlo's Beard wrote:I'm planning on taking multiple hits. :D
So same as most GW's :lol:
No sir. You must have me confused with The Wolfman. :D

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Pirlo's Beard wrote:
blahblah wrote:
Pirlo's Beard wrote:I'm planning on taking multiple hits. :D
So same as most GW's :lol:
No sir. You must have me confused with The Wolfman. :D
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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The good thing is I guess Man City assets aren't going to rise in price, with a blank this week and no double confirmed yet. We can afford to wait.

Except I essentially have to make the decision now, as one of the transfers will be this gameweek... :)

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Probably an appropriate time to re-ask the question; albeit in an entirely different context.

For those who moved them on (or are in the process of doing so), when (will?) and why will you get one or both of them back?

I must say, my long anticipated Phillips -> Sanchez after GW28 isn't as bolted on as it was.

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gw 26 sanchez went out for Zaha to pay for two other transfers . gw27 Hazard went for Stirling and gw28 Ibra went (early before the elbow) for Llorente. Thinking about Sanchez back for Stirling or Phillips or Zaha or Snodgrass or T Davies.

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Fuzzy wrote:Probably an appropriate time to re-ask the question; albeit in an entirely different context.

For those who moved them on (or are in the process of doing so), when (will?) and why will you get one or both of them back?

I must say, my long anticipated Phillips -> Sanchez after GW28 isn't as bolted on as it was.
Sorry. :oops:

To answer your question :-
Ibra - not for the next few gw's but will review weekly if not suspended, I like him but I have never had a Kane and Kane is like a ginger and should be ticked off the bucket list to get it out of my system.
Sanchez - In after the next transfer window opens for my free, out with knee jerk imported mid and ready for 29 to 34 for a Sanchez fiesta.

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All is not well in the Sanchez camp judging by this morning's stories.

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