Billy Bongo wrote:People are forgetting he's a full back not a winger, he's not suddenly going to become Roberto Carlos
gallus wrote:Alonso is not a defender on the pitch. He's a LM. He's as advanced as Moses. And he's a FK specialist.
he played last two seasons in Italy, didn't watch him much tho, only occasionally in highlights.
When he got mentioned he always got praised for his quality, although he always gave me the feeling he had to fully express his potential yet.
I'm definitely a mug by Valeron's standards, a lot of course depends on the system and the needs by his club manager, but while he was here I though of him as a LM who could cover as LB -- offensive as a LB, but not so much offensive as LMs go
Going by a site which gives abundant details about a player's position:
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/marcos-a ... aison=2015
15/16
Matches as App Goal Ass
Left Midfield 17 2 3
Left-Back 11 1 1
Centre-Back 4 - -
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/marcos-a ... aison=2014
14/15
Matches as App Goal Ass
Left-Back 17 - -
Left Midfield 10 1 2
Centre-Back 3 - 1
before that he played 3 seasons at Bolton and half one at Sunderland, and I hadn't heard about him. so some of you definitely know him better from that time
he always played LB when in England, but that was 1. back in time 2. he was still rather young
when he came to Italy in 14/15, Montella (currently AC Milan coach, and reviving us
) first played him at LB too, then he maybe realised it wasn't his best position and "evolved" him to LM. Paulo Sousa appointed in 15/16 continued playing him LM rather than LB, but maybe that depended on the team being already "wired" that way
Under Conte he plays LM in a 343 as there's no LB under that system. FPL tagged him as Def when he came here probably thinking back at the seasons he played in England till 13/14. I figure next season he might be changed to Mid, just as Brunt was a Mid then FPL changed him to Def this season after FPL saw he got adaped as Def in WBA in 15/16.
Even with Conte emphasizing his potential, I'd be surprised anyway should he score more than 2-3 goals in the rest of the season.
About FK "specialist", in his whole career he scored 11 goals
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/marcos-a ... ler/112515 only one thereof reported as FK
The much vituperated David Luiz, as comparison, scored 26 careergoals, 4 from FK, better than Alonso in proportion. He might have forgotten how to kick them, judging by several comments on this forum, but in 12/13 DL scored 7 goals for Chelsea in all comps: 3 FK, 2 pens, 2 long-distance
Maybe that's why Conte lets him take FK rather than Alonso
As I posted elsewhere few weeks ago, I agree that Alonso might score more pts than Azpi in the rest of the season, but I'd be surprised should that margin get even near 20p (= +1ppG), I'd rather guess +10p. In the 12 last games whn both played full 90', they both scored the same 78p, and that can't be discounted due to a "freak haul"
But I'm a mug, what do I know
I'd probably pick Alonso should I choose between the two now, actually I have Azpi since GW1, way before Alonso even came to Chelse and began seeing game time, then never found the right time and convenience to switch
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BTW, wasn't this a topic about Firmino?
Well, i just replied to previous OOT posts here