Joe Allen

[CigaretteSmokingMan]

Stoke next, so Stoke should bag a few

Agreed. The potters are a sitting duck for Stoke at the moment.

Eh?

[scarletjim]

I think SK is responding sarcastically to BB's typo / brief mind-block.

[blahblah]

Which I still didn't get, lol

Hull next....

[Weisenwolf]

Stoke next, so Stoke should bag a few

Agreed. The potters are a sitting duck for Stoke at the moment.

Yea shame it's not Hull eh?

[Finisher1]

Excuse me but is Allen really nailed on?!

Who was playing in the hole for Stoke last season?

[Sutter Kane]

Excuse me but is Allen really nailed on?!

Who was playing in the hole for Stoke last season?

Well he's definitely not nailed on in the AM slot with the likes of Bojan around. Unless he keeps up most of the underlying stats he's showing. Which he probably won't long term. If he does well this weekend or next though, he'll rocket even more in value. I'm not taking the chance he hasn't just found his 'position' though and also not passing up a likely easy 0.2mn profit.

[TheoRiginal]

Nobody. They had Diouf up front (when he wasn't injured, or sometimes Crouch) and Shaqiri and Arnie picking up the pieces when the seven at the back lumped it up field.

Actually, make that eight, as Butland got an assist too.

[Potters82]

Nobody. They had Diouf up front (when he wasn't injured, or sometimes Crouch) and Shaqiri and Arnie picking up the pieces when the seven at the back lumped it up field.

Actually, make that eight, as Butland got an assist too.

You obviously haven't watched Stoke recently.

[Finisher1]

Nobody. They had Diouf up front (when he wasn't injured, or sometimes Crouch) and Shaqiri and Arnie picking up the pieces when the seven at the back lumped it up field.

Actually, make that eight, as Butland got an assist too.

You obviously haven't watched Stoke recently.

What do you think Potters82? Do you think it's likely that Allen will become nailed on playing in the hole?

[TheoRiginal]

Nobody. They had Diouf up front (when he wasn't injured, or sometimes Crouch) and Shaqiri and Arnie picking up the pieces when the seven at the back lumped it up field.

Actually, make that eight, as Butland got an assist too.

You obviously haven't watched Stoke recently.

The question was asked about last season, not the even more abject recent displays.

[Potters82]

Nobody. They had Diouf up front (when he wasn't injured, or sometimes Crouch) and Shaqiri and Arnie picking up the pieces when the seven at the back lumped it up field.

Actually, make that eight, as Butland got an assist too.

You obviously haven't watched Stoke recently.

What do you think Potters82? Do you think it's likely that Allen will become nailed on playing in the hole?

For the next few weeks at least, he will stay there.

[Potters82]

Nobody. They had Diouf up front (when he wasn't injured, or sometimes Crouch) and Shaqiri and Arnie picking up the pieces when the seven at the back lumped it up field.

Actually, make that eight, as Butland got an assist too.

You obviously haven't watched Stoke recently.

The question was asked about last season, not the even more abject recent displays.

I was referring to your comments about lumping it forward, we play as much football as anyone these days.

[The Username]

Another two assists tonight's and double figure hall. Watching the game he's been everywhere.

[Cornish Gooner]

Another two assists tonight's and double figure hall. Watching the game he's been everywhere.

Looks the real deal. As said in commentary he's barely given the ball away or put a foot wrong all night. Delighted with my 4th mid punt

[ZeroRemorse]

Joe Allen is a lad. Bony finally finding some form as well. Stoke are on the way up, good for them.

[The Username]

I have him as my fifth midfielder, thankfully he comes of the bench for Walcott this week, something to think of though is down grading my forth midfielder (lalanna) to upgrade my third to a super premium. Basically Allen or Gundog, may enable a second super premium midfielder, just as Hazard is catching fire.

Currently that sub 5.5 mill spot is throwing up some good candidates.

[Mav3rick]

I probably need to consider if he's a better bet than the 3rd striker options. He did look the real deal and has had the stats all season. Can I really bring him in ahead of Coutinho, Firmino or even Sterling/Walcott though?

352 is an argument though.

[Weisenwolf]

Him & McArthur got me 25 points this week; not bad for £9.7M or 0.7M above base

[Carlos Kickaball]

I see people are starting to drop him, suspended next gameweek but has he also lost his place in the hole?

If he's going to be playing in the hole again soon, selling him could be a real mistake.

[Mav3rick]

I see people are starting to drop him, suspended next gameweek but has he also lost his place in the hole?

If he's going to be playing in the hole again soon, selling him could be a real mistake.

I'd have thought he will move back up the pitch when the injury situation clears up. Bojan was always a risk in terms of Allen's positioning but I don't think Allen's or Stoke's form warranted him dropping back without the midfield injuries they suffered.

Unless the sellers are changing structure, I don't really know who they are jumping ship onto as Allen's underlying stats are/were pretty superior to alternatives. I suppose an upgrade to Snodgrass would be attractive fixture-wise but Hull are pretty ordinary. My money is on the sellers being a bit knee-jerky due to the flag, possibly expecting a big price drop, but I agree it seems wrong to sell him for a one game ban unless you're jumping off the price point completely.

[Payet]

I need to bag that 0.2 profit. Allen is not someone I can trust, especially after Capue's 1st minute goal.

[Notned]

The temptation is there to bank the profit and drop down to a base pricer, but I think I'll probably hold for now and then re-assess next week, to see if I can find an obvious use of the funds.

[Finisher1]

I see people are starting to drop him, suspended next gameweek but has he also lost his place in the hole?

If he's going to be playing in the hole again soon, selling him could be a real mistake.

I'd have thought he will move back up the pitch when the injury situation clears up. Bojan was always a risk in terms of Allen's positioning but I don't think Allen's or Stoke's form warranted him dropping back without the midfield injuries they suffered.

Unless the sellers are changing structure, I don't really know who they are jumping ship onto as Allen's underlying stats are/were pretty superior to alternatives. I suppose an upgrade to Snodgrass would be attractive fixture-wise but Hull are pretty ordinary. My money is on the sellers being a bit knee-jerky due to the flag, possibly expecting a big price drop, but I agree it seems wrong to sell him for a one game ban unless you're jumping off the price point completely.

Oh wow! Allen went from two yellows to five yellows in three consecutive games since I bought him. Wow. Just wow! Didn't see that coming!

At the same time Diego Costa has been on four yellows for about the whole season and there's no way he would take a yellow today either. No way.

[Paulista]

Anybody looking at Allen again as a 4th mid to enable three premiums up front?

5.2m playing as a #10 for a mid table team is attractive.

Just playing around on the transfer page and I realised for only a 4 point hit, I can have -

Sanchez Hazard Walcott Allen
Costa Kane Ibrahimovic

Phillips is only 0.3 more, but I'm not sure he's as central to WBA's offence as Allen is for Stoke. Zaha is 0.5 more than Allen but he may be off to Africa soon anyway.

[tommyk7]

I bought him this week as he was all I could afford after Gündogan dropped to 5.2 (purchased at 5.8 - oy). Tough fixtures now but them's the breaks...

[Owsler]

I'd have had him for Antonio if I could have then made Ibra in for Vardy. However when I've had Allen he's started off well then vanished. Bit like Siggy really

[Aldershot Rejects]

I've got him as my 4th mid rotating with a 4th defender. I think personally he will tick along at about 4ppg for the rest of the season. He won't set the world on fire but he is probably as reliable as anyone under £6m with the possible exception of Phillips. HUL & SUN in the next five and then a decent little run of fixtures.

[tommyk7]

Also hoping for a little boost with Arnautovic out

[Bolt]

I need to bag that 0.2 profit. Allen is not someone I can trust, especially after Capue's 1st minute goal.

Capoue is quite capable of matching Allen's 3 weeks in 4 yellow cards with the occasional goal chucked in once every couple of months or so.

[Joccki_10]

In which roll did he play against Liverpool and Chelsea? Flashscore had him deeper again, next to Adam. Or were Stoke playing five (or say three, like Chelsea) at the back?
I like their fixtures and with Allen at 5.2m he could prove to be a good asset for the fourth or fifth midfielder spot.