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Some great responses on the Lovren situation, thanks.

Any Liverpool fans have a view of that "which 4 from 5" issue with Firmino, Mane, Coutinho, Lallana & Sturridge?

Rotation? Otherwise who misses out? Firmino/Mane the only ones secure?

All 5 are playing really well right now and each offer something slightly different to the team so it's really difficult to predict. Lallana leads the press and has been shifted deeper this year where he can be on the ball more; Firmino looks a class above everyone else on the pitch and is a good finisher; Mane is being compared to John Barnes; Coutinho oozes creativity and loves the big games; and Sturridge has gotten much more involved in tracking back and keeping the ball moving in deeper central positions the last couple of games. Sorry this isn't much of a help - Klopp will likely bench whoever looks the most tired in training.

[Stemania]

Cheers.

[Britinus]

Not quite sure why everyone is favouring Mane and/or Firmino when Courtino is cheaper, has scored more points with less playing time and I think takes the corners. Maybe he'll be rotated but not even sure about that either.

[bigcliff2]

Not quite sure why everyone is favouring Mane and/or Firmino when Courtino is cheaper, has scored more points with less playing time and I think takes the corners. Maybe he'll be rotated but not even sure about that either.

It's for reasons already stated... There's a general feeling that Coutinho/Sturridge is the final selection issue. Firmino and Mane are considered more nailed on. Whether that proves to be the case, who knows, but that's the logic. Coutinho didn't start v Leicester - perhaps it was an international return issue - again, no one knows for sure but what we do know is that Mane and Firmino have both started every time when fit - Coutinho hasn't... Think the corners are shared to - Henderson, Milner, even think Firmino may have taken one or two in the league cup game the other night though don't quote me on any of that

[Britinus]

OK thanks, might switch to Mane then.

[ZeroRemorse]

I'm looking at Matip + Firmino/Mane in a few weeks.

The good Hull game is cancelled out by Man Utd at home and Swansea away, which are bad and average fixtures respectively.

For me it's the West Brom home game which is the signal to move towards Liverpool assets.

How is United at Anfield a bad fixture? United are poor and Pool will be wanting to thump them at Anfield. Which I think they will.. and Swansea are hardly Man City.

Anyone captaining Mane vs Hull/opinions on it?

[cesc408]

I'm looking at Matip + Firmino/Mane in a few weeks.

The good Hull game is cancelled out by Man Utd at home and Swansea away, which are bad and average fixtures respectively.

For me it's the West Brom home game which is the signal to move towards Liverpool assets.

How is United at Anfield a bad fixture? United are poor and Pool will be wanting to thump them at Anfield. Which I think they will.. and Swansea are hardly Man City.

Anyone captaining Mane vs Hull/opinions on it?

Yup agree on both, and I think all 11 are decent fixtures. As for captaining a player it's always a risk not going with Aguero if you have him, especially when he could get a decent score vs Swansea

[bigcliff2]

I don't think you can really consider anything a "good" or "bad" fixture with Liverpool

[ZeroRemorse]

No Aguero for me this GW. Picking him up in GW 8 if things go to plan.

Mane looks my best option. Or Sterling.

[Le Red]

I don't think you can really consider anything a "good" or "bad" fixture with Liverpool

This is very true.

[tommyk7]

Mane (v).

[murf]

Lallana won't be dropped so he can play all 4 of Mane, Firmino, Coutinho and Sturridge.

Those 4 are currently a 'perm 3 from 4' for the 3 attacking slots and I can't see any of them playing in the more central midfield 3 where Lallana currently is. Similarly Lallana's chances further forward are limited while everyone else is fit.

Lallana may even lose out altogether when/if Can is brought back in. Also Milner could go back into midfield but I can't see anyone else being a regular LB so maybe not.

This weekend I think Sturridge will miss out but, if so, why rest him in midweek??? Not sure.....

[maradonash]

This weekend I think Sturridge will miss out but, if so, why rest him in midweek??? Not sure.....

Studge actually had, what can only be described as a "few issues" that prevented him training the days inbetween the Chelsea and Derby games. Definitely not an injury though. No Sir. What ever would lead us to think that was the case??

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... eague-News

[blahblah]

From what I have seen Henderson holds with Wijnathng and Lalla supporting the front 3.

I sense that Klopp doesn't like Sturridge, but does like Origi - but he is a bit young etc compared to Cout, Firm and Mane, so they are the first choice front three.

FF wise: the problem is that Firm as a false 9 is more of a conduit to goals than a scorer, which means carnage regarding who will get the FPL points...

[payetme]

liverpool are fixture proof they will score goals against any team. They had the toughest fixtures and they still average about 2 goals a game. I still got Coutinho on my team maybe getting another liverpool player on my team

[tommyk7]

Mane (v).

I'm doubling up, Firmino + Mane in.

[Mav3rick]

MPTree made me double check Clyne's stats and he's done really well in an attack sense, very much equivalent to Walker.

I'm definitely considering bringing him in given the fixtures are easing slightly. Initially I was very keen on the Coutinho/Firmino double up, but Sterling has made a play for that slot in midfield now.

[Finisher1]

Do you guys think Lovren is nailed long term, even when everyone is fit?

He is 4.9m so seems like a bargain, but I'm just wondering whether he is nailed or not.

[Stemania]

Do you guys think Lovren is nailed long term, even when everyone is fit?

He is 4.9m so seems like a bargain, but I'm just wondering whether he is nailed or not.

Some answers to that are on page 1 of the thread.

[Weisenwolf]

They all make me nervous; we still have no idea who to have

[cesc408]

Think the team is 70%+ predictable
Questions on who plays upfront, LB (although I think that's Milners now until he is needed in midfield should there be injuries) and possibly now a question over the no.1 goalkeeper.

Think the CB pairing is safe

[Resonare]

Clyne, Lovren, Matip, Henderson, Firmino and Mane will start if fit.

[murf]

All pretty solid bar the keeper call with Can waiting in the wings and Sturridge, Origi and co ready for injury cover. Not enough games for rotation to be required at the moment.

Karius (Mig?)
Clyne Matip Lovren Milner
Hendo Lallana Wino (Can)
Mane Firmino Coutinho (Sturridge )

[idlewilde]

Liverpool fan here - I think the above is pretty spot on , but no-one is nailed on bar maybe Clyne. Klopp seems to be the type of manager who will play whoever looks sharpest in training, his high pressing means everyone is liable to be rotated occasionally. The above looks to be his preference right now, lack of europe should mean rotation is not too severe.

For the record, I'm going with Lovren and Firmino, with an eye to bringing Mane back if they look like catching fire.

[TheBigLewandowski]

I have gone with Firmino. Understand it is difficult to predict who is going to fire with so many decent options going forward at times, but have just gone with my gut instinct!

[Mo132]

Really struggling between Mane and Firmino, anyone got any stats or insight to sway me one way or the other?

[Aldershot Rejects]

Really struggling between Mane and Firmino, anyone got any stats or insight to sway me one way or the other?

I've gone with Firmino because he's cheaper. It seemed better than tossing a coin!

[Gambit]

Really struggling between Mane and Firmino, anyone got any stats or insight to sway me one way or the other?

I don't think there is any clear way to split them, the best you can say is that they both look safer than Coutinho/Sturridge and come the end of the season there won't be too much between them.

Firmino is a Klopp favourite but Mane has been brilliant so far and is their one attacking player with that killer pace, just think you have to make your mind up and accept that there will be GW's where the one you don't have gets the big score.

[Stemania]

There's just a hint of a whisper on twitter that Klavan may be a threat to Lovren this weekend. Worth worrying about? I really need Lovren to be reliable in the structure I'm set on.

[cesc408]

There's just a hint of a whisper on twitter that Klavan may be a threat to Lovren this weekend. Worth worrying about? I really need Lovren to be reliable in the structure I'm set on.

Read that somewhere aswell.
If he is benched it might not just be for todays game. Has made me change my plans, bringing in Clyne and now keeping Stones, for Baines and Lovren