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Why have several people mentioned an OOP Martial?
Last year he was listed as a forward, This year as a midfielder, the correct position for me. He plays as a LM/LW as UTD played 4231, like Sanchez at Arsenal.
He was poor when chosen at the euros & i don't think he was even that great last year in the PL, would of like to seen him get a decent run as the 1 upfront. Rather go for Micky myself this year. Seems to have a decent goals and assists ratio elsewhere, see if he can do it in the PL
*awaits Martial to get 20 BPL goals this season*
Last year he was listed as a forward, This year as a midfielder, the correct position for me. He plays as a LM/LW as UTD played 4231, like Sanchez at Arsenal.
He was poor when chosen at the euros & i don't think he was even that great last year in the PL, would of like to seen him get a decent run as the 1 upfront. Rather go for Micky myself this year. Seems to have a decent goals and assists ratio elsewhere, see if he can do it in the PL
*awaits Martial to get 20 BPL goals this season*
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Cheers. Maybe Nolito as an alternative then, until De Bruyne looks like starting.liquidfootball2 wrote:Kdb is Belgian but be cautious anywayNotned wrote:Yeah good point. Nice to allocate a spot to him for now though, as it allows a straight switch to virtually any mid in the game until he is ready.liquidfootball2 wrote:KDB may well not start the season as the French players aren't going on tour with them so will be a little behind everyone else with regards to pre season training/fitting in with what Pep wants. May just be better to wait before considering him.Notned wrote:Aguero, Shaw, Mikhi/Martial, KDB, Azpi are the nailed ones in my draft so far. .
Gunner has however posted the touring squad
Squad for China tour.
City squad: Hart, Caballero, Gunn, O'Brien, Kompany, Zabaleta, Fernando, Sterling, Nasri, Nolito, Aguero, Kolarov, Bony, Navas, Delph, Silva, Clichy, Fernandinho, Denayer, Otamendi, Zuculini, Toure, Maffeo, Adarabioyo, Celina, Horsfield, Barker, Bytyqi, Angelino, A. Garcia, M. Garcia, Humphreys
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Well Sanchez wont start the season for Arsenal, so be careful there buddy...swadd1er wrote:I presume a lot of you will be going with the template big players but who are they this season?
Aguero and Sanchez will start the season for me for sure.
Sigurdsson & Aguero.
Wont be choosing Martial due to insecurity of starts and price tag.
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Will nolito start? Him and de bruyne out wide with silva in the middle?Notned wrote:Cheers. Maybe Nolito as an alternative then, until De Bruyne looks like starting.liquidfootball2 wrote:Kdb is Belgian but be cautious anywayNotned wrote:Yeah good point. Nice to allocate a spot to him for now though, as it allows a straight switch to virtually any mid in the game until he is ready.liquidfootball2 wrote:KDB may well not start the season as the French players aren't going on tour with them so will be a little behind everyone else with regards to pre season training/fitting in with what Pep wants. May just be better to wait before considering him.Notned wrote:Aguero, Shaw, Mikhi/Martial, KDB, Azpi are the nailed ones in my draft so far. .
Gunner has however posted the touring squad
Squad for China tour.
City squad: Hart, Caballero, Gunn, O'Brien, Kompany, Zabaleta, Fernando, Sterling, Nasri, Nolito, Aguero, Kolarov, Bony, Navas, Delph, Silva, Clichy, Fernandinho, Denayer, Otamendi, Zuculini, Toure, Maffeo, Adarabioyo, Celina, Horsfield, Barker, Bytyqi, Angelino, A. Garcia, M. Garcia, Humphreys
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I'm not sure he will when everyone is fit and available. 50/50 I'd say. Probably a good chance he'll feature if De Bruyne misses the start though. KDB is my preference of the two long term, mind.S_sutton87 wrote:Will nolito start? Him and de bruyne out wide with silva in the middle?Notned wrote:Cheers. Maybe Nolito as an alternative then, until De Bruyne looks like starting.liquidfootball2 wrote:Kdb is Belgian but be cautious anywayNotned wrote:Yeah good point. Nice to allocate a spot to him for now though, as it allows a straight switch to virtually any mid in the game until he is ready.liquidfootball2 wrote:KDB may well not start the season as the French players aren't going on tour with them so will be a little behind everyone else with regards to pre season training/fitting in with what Pep wants. May just be better to wait before considering him.Notned wrote:Aguero, Shaw, Mikhi/Martial, KDB, Azpi are the nailed ones in my draft so far. .
Gunner has however posted the touring squad
Squad for China tour.
City squad: Hart, Caballero, Gunn, O'Brien, Kompany, Zabaleta, Fernando, Sterling, Nasri, Nolito, Aguero, Kolarov, Bony, Navas, Delph, Silva, Clichy, Fernandinho, Denayer, Otamendi, Zuculini, Toure, Maffeo, Adarabioyo, Celina, Horsfield, Barker, Bytyqi, Angelino, A. Garcia, M. Garcia, Humphreys
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far too early for me to commit to any "must haves" but I have to say that my eyes lit up when I saw Martial listed as a midfielder. He's a brilliant player, will have to see how they line up for the pre season games but I'd be amazed if he isn't a key player this season.
I think him and Mkhitaryan will be massively helped by the touch and vision of Ibrahimovic.
Unless something goes awry In pre season I will most likely have Martial or Mkhitaryan, and quite possibly both.
Also looking at: Everton defender (based on the Koeman effect), Stones (based on transfer to City), United defender
I think him and Mkhitaryan will be massively helped by the touch and vision of Ibrahimovic.
Unless something goes awry In pre season I will most likely have Martial or Mkhitaryan, and quite possibly both.
Also looking at: Everton defender (based on the Koeman effect), Stones (based on transfer to City), United defender
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I'm thinking of going mikhi and martial
Siggy is also going in my team.
Siggy is also going in my team.
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Hoping Wenger drops some hints prior to the season starting.Vincent Black Shadow wrote:Well Sanchez wont start the season for Arsenal, so be careful there buddy...swadd1er wrote:Sanchez will start the season for me for sure.
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Did you see the photo posted of Sanchez ankles after copa America ?swadd1er wrote:Hoping Wenger drops some hints prior to the season starting.Vincent Black Shadow wrote:Well Sanchez wont start the season for Arsenal, so be careful there buddy...swadd1er wrote:Sanchez will start the season for me for sure.
Ouch !!!!!!
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Aguero, ozil , mane , payet for me as must haves.
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Been looking at the defence and I think there is great VFM there. Include Coleman, Morgan in the bracket too.liquidfootball2 wrote:Terry, Baines, Shaw, Bertrand, Walker, where do you stop? Defence looks the real stand out area this year.
Nothing outstanding further up beyond an oop martial and Aguero - if i think an early wc after wk 3 pretty likely i may pick a side with that in mind and hope for a flyer.
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What about Nasri? It'll no doubt depend on Pep, but he could get some minutes.Notned wrote:I'm not sure he will when everyone is fit and available. 50/50 I'd say. Probably a good chance he'll feature if De Bruyne misses the start though. KDB is my preference of the two long term, mind.S_sutton87 wrote:Will nolito start? Him and de bruyne out wide with silva in the middle?Notned wrote:Cheers. Maybe Nolito as an alternative then, until De Bruyne looks like starting.liquidfootball2 wrote:Kdb is Belgian but be cautious anywayNotned wrote:Yeah good point. Nice to allocate a spot to him for now though, as it allows a straight switch to virtually any mid in the game until he is ready.liquidfootball2 wrote:KDB may well not start the season as the French players aren't going on tour with them so will be a little behind everyone else with regards to pre season training/fitting in with what Pep wants. May just be better to wait before considering him.Notned wrote:Aguero, Shaw, Mikhi/Martial, KDB, Azpi are the nailed ones in my draft so far. .
Gunner has however posted the touring squad
Squad for China tour.
City squad: Hart, Caballero, Gunn, O'Brien, Kompany, Zabaleta, Fernando, Sterling, Nasri, Nolito, Aguero, Kolarov, Bony, Navas, Delph, Silva, Clichy, Fernandinho, Denayer, Otamendi, Zuculini, Toure, Maffeo, Adarabioyo, Celina, Horsfield, Barker, Bytyqi, Angelino, A. Garcia, M. Garcia, Humphreys
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Any Penalty taking defenders this season?
Last season we have Daniels after Wilson's injury. Is Baines back to penalties?
Last season we have Daniels after Wilson's injury. Is Baines back to penalties?
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Pretty sure it's Lukaku for Everton these days? Should Lukaku leave, though...Shareef Babu wrote:Any Penalty taking defenders this season?
Last season we have Daniels after Wilson's injury. Is Baines back to penalties?
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Siggy is probably the first name on my team sheet, I think he's been starkly undervalued. He's the form player of 2016, established goal scoring midfielder with two great first fixtures for 7.5.
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kevin wimmer is my only one for now. vertonghen is out so he is due to step in and is .5 cheaper than anyone else in the spurs back line. lloris in goal and the possibility of wanyama and dier in front of the back line with dembele still banned looks like a quality defensive line.
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It's probably worth keeping up with latest developments on this as they come, he has crossed my mind also. I remember reading an article saying Vert's injury was better than expected and that he may be fit to play mid to late August, so anywhere from GW2-4 ish presumably. Wimmer will be good value for as long as he starts you'd have thought, but if it's only going to be 1-2 games probably isn't worth the investment/implied transfer. With Everton and Liverpool in their first three I'm not sure even that as a stopgap Wimmer would be better than many of the cheaper 4.5m options in other teams to be honest.Glenjamin wrote:kevin wimmer is my only one for now. vertonghen is out so he is due to step in and is .5 cheaper than anyone else in the spurs back line. lloris in goal and the possibility of wanyama and dier in front of the back line with dembele still banned looks like a quality defensive line.
If we're talking about 5m defenders, it's the question of which of Mert/Gabriel will be first choice that most interests me. Though perhaps Arsenal will finally buy a new CB. Jagielka and Stones (if he moves) look good at that price to me too.
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yeah true i'm unsure on the progress of vert but ligament damage can be a nasty one. regardless though i'll have Wimmer start the season giving at least a couple of weeks to see how everyone else lines up. I don't use arsenal players so no dramas for me with regards to mert/Gabriel haha.Stemania wrote:It's probably worth keeping up with latest developments on this as they come, he has crossed my mind also. I remember reading an article saying Vert's injury was better than expected and that he may be fit to play mid to late August, so anywhere from GW2-4 ish presumably. Wimmer will be good value for as long as he starts you'd have thought, but if it's only going to be 1-2 games probably isn't worth the investment/implied transfer. With Everton and Liverpool in their first three I'm not sure even that as a stopgap Wimmer would be better than many of the cheaper 4.5m options in other teams to be honest.Glenjamin wrote:kevin wimmer is my only one for now. vertonghen is out so he is due to step in and is .5 cheaper than anyone else in the spurs back line. lloris in goal and the possibility of wanyama and dier in front of the back line with dembele still banned looks like a quality defensive line.
If we're talking about 5m defenders, it's the question of which of Mert/Gabriel will be first choice that most interests me. Though perhaps Arsenal will finally buy a new CB. Jagielka and Stones (if he moves) look good at that price to me too.
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Very much so. The arrival of Guidolin seemed to rejuvenate him.sunbather wrote:Siggy is probably the first name on my team sheet, I think he's been starkly undervalued. He's the form player of 2016, established goal scoring midfielder with two great first fixtures for 7.5.
Ayew also interests me. Also finished the season strongly (4 goals in the last 3 fixtures) and could yet be a genuine OOP asset.
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I wholly expect Baines to be back on them, no more indulgances of certain players at Everton.Roope wrote:Pretty sure it's Lukaku for Everton these days? Should Lukaku leave, though...Shareef Babu wrote:Any Penalty taking defenders this season?
Last season we have Daniels after Wilson's injury. Is Baines back to penalties?
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Interesting. I hope there's a few pre-season ones so we can find out for sure. Pity it wasn't just pens Baines had lost by the end of last season.The Username wrote:I wholly expect Baines to be back on them, no more indulgances of certain players at Everton.Roope wrote:Pretty sure it's Lukaku for Everton these days? Should Lukaku leave, though...Shareef Babu wrote:Any Penalty taking defenders this season?
Last season we have Daniels after Wilson's injury. Is Baines back to penalties?
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Hes in my team mate. Everton are going to be a different animal at the back next year and in general. Im backing Baines to get back to normal service, he suffered last season from his injury and lack of a good pre season, im hearing hes keen as mustered and already alligned himself nicely with Koeman.Stemania wrote:Interesting. I hope there's a few pre-season ones so we can find out for sure. Pity it wasn't just pens Baines had lost by the end of last season.The Username wrote:I wholly expect Baines to be back on them, no more indulgances of certain players at Everton.Roope wrote:Pretty sure it's Lukaku for Everton these days? Should Lukaku leave, though...Shareef Babu wrote:Any Penalty taking defenders this season?
Last season we have Daniels after Wilson's injury. Is Baines back to penalties?
Also expecting a huge improvement in Coleman this season, believe it or not he was one of the players who really disliked working with Martinez in fact it nearly came to blows in Martinez last few games.
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I've had Jags in my drafts so far as I also expect a big improvement from you (lovely fixtures after GW1 too). Am open to be convinced the extra 0.5m for a fullback is worth it, but then they're competing against the likes of Sagna and Shaw (or Terry/Zouma, Walker or even Fuchs). Plus an Arsenal CB might be 5m.
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ishnid wrote:This is like Andrei Shevchenko all over again. Except that Ibrahimovic is 4 years older. And he's been playing in semi-retirement in Ligue 1 for the last few years. And he's joining a worse team.froog wrote:aguero and ibra.
there's just too much things in ibra's favour (mou, no van gaal, reinforcements coming) not to take the chance.
I can absolutely see why people think he'll be great, but I have my doubts.
I must agree. Furthermore if you look at Mourinhos track record recently he has been getting these star strikers in the twilights of their careers to serve as the number 2 strikers. If Zlatan is nailed on then something to consider but this very much remains to be seen.
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Anyone else think sturridge is worth a risk if he stays fit got goals in him big if is if he will stay fit tho
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I'm going to start with Ibra. I like him and think he'll do well, I think Utd will do well this season in general. Plus he's a easy downgrade to someone else, so would rather him if he goes nuts early on rather than try and squeeze him in later.ctibbits wrote:ishnid wrote:This is like Andrei Shevchenko all over again. Except that Ibrahimovic is 4 years older. And he's been playing in semi-retirement in Ligue 1 for the last few years. And he's joining a worse team.froog wrote:aguero and ibra.
there's just too much things in ibra's favour (mou, no van gaal, reinforcements coming) not to take the chance.
I can absolutely see why people think he'll be great, but I have my doubts.
I must agree. Furthermore if you look at Mourinhos track record recently he has been getting these star strikers in the twilights of their careers to serve as the number 2 strikers. If Zlatan is nailed on then something to consider but this very much remains to be seen.
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I think it would be useful to identify £4M defenders and £4.5M mids & strikers who are first 11.
That would be very useful indeed; any ideas?
That would be very useful indeed; any ideas?
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A seperate thread would be useful so things aren't getting mixed in here, however, they could be must haves?Weisenwolf wrote:I think it would be useful to identify £4M defenders and £4.5M mids & strikers who are first 11.
That would be very useful indeed; any ideas?
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Not really an 'if', he won'tS_sutton87 wrote:Anyone else think sturridge is worth a risk if he stays fit got goals in him big if is if he will stay fit tho
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My main 2 initially would have to be Kun, unless there is a likelihood that he won't start the first few like last year and Stones regardless of whether he transfers or not.
Baines is a big question mark for me at the moment because at the price if he is back to the form of the season before last he could really hurt you if you haven't got him. BUT that would mean me going with 2 EVE defenders, assuming Stones stays, and until I see how Koeman has them playing that might be a risk.
Baines is a big question mark for me at the moment because at the price if he is back to the form of the season before last he could really hurt you if you haven't got him. BUT that would mean me going with 2 EVE defenders, assuming Stones stays, and until I see how Koeman has them playing that might be a risk.
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