So, where are we on Chelsea now?
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So, where are we on Chelsea now?
They are enduring an obvious (and hilarious) run of bad form at the moment, and a good few of their assets have dropped in price since GW1.
Are we planning on jumping on any of these in advance as a differential? Costa is currently sitting at just over 5% ownership.
Are people waiting for them to have an upturn in form?
Or steering clear all together?
I briefly considered drafting someone (Costa) for next GW's clash vs Villa, but have decided against it (especially as the following week is a Derby)
Are we planning on jumping on any of these in advance as a differential? Costa is currently sitting at just over 5% ownership.
Are people waiting for them to have an upturn in form?
Or steering clear all together?
I briefly considered drafting someone (Costa) for next GW's clash vs Villa, but have decided against it (especially as the following week is a Derby)
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I would definately wait for an upturn in form, or even a win
Having said that i do own bergovic, which hasn't really worked out as i thought so far!
Having said that i do own bergovic, which hasn't really worked out as i thought so far!
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Re: So, where are we on Chelsea now?
Unlike some other big teams and their big hitters, where the stats suggested poor finishing rather than poor form, Chelsea and their assets have probably been the complete opposite.
They are simply in terrible form, and the stats suggest a complete lack of opportunities to even give a glimmer of hope or improvement moving forward.
All returns to date have been more luck than a case of their work rate and stats suggesting returns were bound to come.
They obviously have the personnel and individual talent to get out of this slump, but so dire has their form been, that I currently won't go near any of their assets until I actually see with my own eyes an upturn in form over at least a 2 to 3 week period.
Given the wealth of other players that are performing, and also kinder on the budget, I see no need to panic and rush any CHE players in either, regardless of any supposedly easy fixtures.
If what we've seen from the season thus far continues, then this could be the season where for the first time in a long time we see the death of the Chelsea fpl assets.
They are simply in terrible form, and the stats suggest a complete lack of opportunities to even give a glimmer of hope or improvement moving forward.
All returns to date have been more luck than a case of their work rate and stats suggesting returns were bound to come.
They obviously have the personnel and individual talent to get out of this slump, but so dire has their form been, that I currently won't go near any of their assets until I actually see with my own eyes an upturn in form over at least a 2 to 3 week period.
Given the wealth of other players that are performing, and also kinder on the budget, I see no need to panic and rush any CHE players in either, regardless of any supposedly easy fixtures.
If what we've seen from the season thus far continues, then this could be the season where for the first time in a long time we see the death of the Chelsea fpl assets.
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I've had Azpilicueta this whole time, waiting for the form to finally pick up (he did have some decent returns in the first gameweeks due to attacking contributions, so it wasn't entirely a waste of funds).
I'm giving him one more week, let's see if they manage to keep a clean sheet against Villa at home.
I'm giving him one more week, let's see if they manage to keep a clean sheet against Villa at home.
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Well, they will nearly all have been away from Jose for a fortnight so they may have got a bit less bad
Terry has 0 points from 5 appearances
Terry has 0 points from 5 appearances
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I'm giving Azpi another week, then he's gone for Bellerin. I wouldn't touch their mids and strikers.
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I doubled up on defence after the Arsenal game, thinking I was ahead of the game. I was a fool.
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So far ahead of the game that you ended up behind it.JVRB48 wrote:I doubled up on defence after the Arsenal game, thinking I was ahead of the game. I was a fool.
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I have Azpi too and fast running out of patience. Having said that they have attractive fixtures coming up and if Jose goes negative, defend at all costs, there may yet be returns. Not holding my breath thoughgallus wrote:I'm giving Azpi another week, then he's gone for Bellerin. I wouldn't touch their mids and strikers.
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Chelsea's attack has continued the tepid affair it was over the past 10-15 games of last season. I have them squarely in the middle of the league at 13th (virtually tied for 10th) with such heavy hitters as Norwich, West Ham and Stoke. Their defence has completely collapsed and is deservedly getting torched. By my model their defence is 4th worst in the league, ahead of only Norwich, Sunderland and Stoke (love that my GK duo includes keepers from two of those three). Further, they are a LONG way away from the top half of defensive clubs. They would need to drop their expected goals allowed by about 0.50 GPG just to get near the top half of the table. Defenses like City, United and the Spurs have performed so much better that they aren't even in the same neighborhood.
Until I see something that suggests a better performance I will be staying far, far away.
Until I see something that suggests a better performance I will be staying far, far away.
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Exactly the same. Had him since the start. 1 goal helped but his points are a lot lower than expected. Home to AV next game. Expecting a clean sheet. Anything other then he's gone the following weekAldershot Rejects wrote:I have Azpi too and fast running out of patience. Having said that they have attractive fixtures coming up and if Jose goes negative, defend at all costs, there may yet be returns. Not holding my breath thoughgallus wrote:I'm giving Azpi another week, then he's gone for Bellerin. I wouldn't touch their mids and strikers.
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Re: So, where are we on Chelsea now?
Wildcard active and Hazard and Azpi are gone
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Hazard gets one more game for me. I can't say I'm not tempted to look elsewhere, but I'm not sure Villa at home is the game to jump ship.
Blind faith is telling me that despite the team being woeful currently, he is starting to return steadily, and surely they will turn the corner soon? Be it by virtue of Mourinho desperately trying to cling to his job, or rejuvenation under a new manager...
If he continues to toil in the next game or two, than a switch to Mata in time for that GW11 run could be on the cards.
Blind faith is telling me that despite the team being woeful currently, he is starting to return steadily, and surely they will turn the corner soon? Be it by virtue of Mourinho desperately trying to cling to his job, or rejuvenation under a new manager...
If he continues to toil in the next game or two, than a switch to Mata in time for that GW11 run could be on the cards.
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Chelsea players are not only hitting bad form it seems they are burnt out
Ivo terry hazard all played every game last season
This may have taken its toll
Hazard only player to keep hold of
Costa comes back from ban could bang a few goals but the lad is a liability
Ivo terry hazard all played every game last season
This may have taken its toll
Hazard only player to keep hold of
Costa comes back from ban could bang a few goals but the lad is a liability
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Weird how bad they are isn't it? I can't even begin to explain the lack of effort (that's all it can be because the talent and experience is unquestionable).
However, I would very much like to know what people think their final league position will be...
OK I'll start, 1.
However, I would very much like to know what people think their final league position will be...
OK I'll start, 1.
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I have Hazard and Azpilicueta and I'm leaving them in for the Villa game. I did the same for Sanchez against Leicester and that worked out nicely. If they don't get anything against Villa they're both gone (which means both could have dropped in price, but as they're expensive anyway I can pretty much replace them with whoever I want even if they do fall)
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Third or fourth.Sutter Kane wrote:Weird how bad they are isn't it? I can't even begin to explain the lack of effort (that's all it can be because the talent and experience is unquestionable).
However, I would very much like to know what people think their final league position will be...
OK I'll start, 1.
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Oh.... More a question right now of how good I think Arsenal and Man U are, and how quickly I think Chelsea can shake off this fug. Mmmm, Chelsea 4th, with an FA cup win
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Can't believe people think Hazard is a "keep" given the form of Sanchez and De Bruyne.
I brought Zouma in - regretting it but will keep him in for Villa.
I brought Zouma in - regretting it but will keep him in for Villa.
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Hazard's returns are a great example of what's been discussed in the Aguero thread.
His returns thus far are much more a case of random luck as opposed to good or blossoming form.
That luck may continue against Villa due to the lack of quality opposition, but on current form it's impossible to predict if the likelihood of returns are indeed highly likely.
His returns thus far are much more a case of random luck as opposed to good or blossoming form.
That luck may continue against Villa due to the lack of quality opposition, but on current form it's impossible to predict if the likelihood of returns are indeed highly likely.
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5.Sutter Kane wrote:Weird how bad they are isn't it? I can't even begin to explain the lack of effort (that's all it can be because the talent and experience is unquestionable).
However, I would very much like to know what people think their final league position will be...
OK I'll start, 1.
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They'll be fourth by Christmas.
Not because they will improve that much, but because everybody else will (as usual) drop points at random except ManU, ManC and Arsenal.
Not because they will improve that much, but because everybody else will (as usual) drop points at random except ManU, ManC and Arsenal.
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I'll take 4.Sutter Kane wrote:Weird how bad they are isn't it? I can't even begin to explain the lack of effort (that's all it can be because the talent and experience is unquestionable).
However, I would very much like to know what people think their final league position will be...
OK I'll start, 1.
Think top 5 goes City, Arsenal, United, Chelsea, Spurs. A good fight among Everton, Pool, Southampton and Palace for 6th. I do reserve the right to adjust if Klopp's Liverpool seem a change side.
With that said, they need to stop dropping points like now.
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they are going to hammer somebody soon, will this be the weekend to jump back onto them with the spare Aguero cash? Hazard, Costa? over 56K have brought in Costa, but over 300k have added Pelle!
I keep thinking they will come good but still they slump, Villa are dire, if this isn't the weekend to back a Chelsea player I'm not sure when will be
I keep thinking they will come good but still they slump, Villa are dire, if this isn't the weekend to back a Chelsea player I'm not sure when will be
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That's the big issue for me. Say Costa scores this week... What does it tell you? Does that mean you really want him next week and the week after? I can see the appeal for the Villa game but I think the only way we actually learn anything is if Chelsea continue to dissapoint. In the medium term I think there are better options until Chelsea show they are over this slump, and it'll take more than a win over Villa to convince me that I'm missing out by not owning Costa/Hazard et al.Gambit wrote:...I keep thinking they will come good but still they slump, Villa are dire, if this isn't the weekend to back a Chelsea player I'm not sure when will be
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I agree, almost.Bertie64 wrote:That's the big issue for me. Say Costa scores this week... What does it tell you? Does that mean you really want him next week and the week after? I can see the appeal for the Villa game but I think the only way we actually learn anything is if Chelsea continue to dissapoint. In the medium term I think there are better options until Chelsea show they are over this slump, and it'll take more than a win over Villa to convince me that I'm missing out by not owning Costa/Hazard et al.Gambit wrote:...I keep thinking they will come good but still they slump, Villa are dire, if this isn't the weekend to back a Chelsea player I'm not sure when will be
Although Chelsea have been shocking they will surely turn it round at some point (I think), the upcoming games for Chelsea are not too bad with Stoke, Norwich, Bournemouth in their next 6 (after this week), It may only take one good win v Villa for the likes of Hazard, Costa, Fab etc to fire up. They have not become terrible players and with everybody (or most) going for Pelle, Lukaku, Sanchez (who may not even play) etc then going against the grain somewhat with a big hitting Chelsea player may not be the worst tactic in the world.
Pelle is away at Liverpool next week, Lukaku at Arsenal, Chelsea play West Ham, I would argue that this week and next, Hazard and Costa have better fixtures than those players who are being picked en masse. Not saying I will be brave enough myself, but at some point Chelsea will find form.
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Yup. That's what I mean. At the bottom of all the ifs, buts and maybes there is always the possibility that it pays off.Gambit wrote:I agree, almost.Bertie64 wrote:That's the big issue for me. Say Costa scores this week... What does it tell you? Does that mean you really want him next week and the week after? I can see the appeal for the Villa game but I think the only way we actually learn anything is if Chelsea continue to dissapoint. In the medium term I think there are better options until Chelsea show they are over this slump, and it'll take more than a win over Villa to convince me that I'm missing out by not owning Costa/Hazard et al.Gambit wrote:...I keep thinking they will come good but still they slump, Villa are dire, if this isn't the weekend to back a Chelsea player I'm not sure when will be
Although Chelsea have been shocking they will surely turn it round at some point (I think), the upcoming games for Chelsea are not too bad with Stoke, Norwich, Bournemouth in their next 6 (after this week), It may only take one good win v Villa for the likes of Hazard, Costa, Fab etc to fire up. They have not become terrible players and with everybody (or most) going for Pelle, Lukaku, Sanchez (who may not even play) etc then going against the grain somewhat with a big hitting Chelsea player may not be the worst tactic in the world.
Pelle is away at Liverpool next week, Lukaku at Arsenal, Chelsea play West Ham, I would argue that this week and next, Hazard and Costa have better fixtures than those players who are being picked en masse. Not saying I will be brave enough myself, but at some point Chelsea will find form.
Without something more positive than hope and the belief that they must turn it around at some point, however, it is a bit of a punt.
I also think that Chelsea will/must turn it around, and when they really look like they have I will be all over them. I just think there a better options out there, with more to back it up, right now. But if you are after a punt there are plenty of worse ones than Chelsea players.
The situation with Hazard and Costa is not the same as Aguero and Sanchez at the start of the season.
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Still have Hazard, and considering Azpi as a Kolarov replacement.
Could just be blind faith, but I'm sure they'll turn it around soon. Hopefully starting with this weekend.
Could just be blind faith, but I'm sure they'll turn it around soon. Hopefully starting with this weekend.
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Costa had a month of tailored fitness training.
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By 'tailored' do you mean they let the seams out?math! wrote:Costa had a month of tailored fitness training.
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