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GW38 captain

Sanchez (WBA)
2
2%
Giroud (WBA)
0
No votes
Cazorla (WBA)
0
No votes
Ramsey (WBA)
0
No votes
Ozil (WBA)
0
No votes
Hazard (SUN)
6
7%
Costa (SUN)
8
10%
Terry (SUN)
2
2%
Ivanovic (SUN)
1
1%
Aguero (SOU)
51
61%
Silva (SOU)
1
1%
Toure (SOU)
0
No votes
Benteke (BUR)
6
7%
Kane (eve)
0
No votes
Eriksen (eve)
0
No votes
Sigurdsson (cry)
0
No votes
Other
6
7%
 
Total votes: 83

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GW38 captain poll

Post by gooberman »

Final captain decision of the season. Could be a crucial decision.

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Aguero (C)
Hazard (VC)

That's the logical choice. In whichever order.

As my mini league is won though (barring a catastrophe) I am half tempted to punt on a Kane replacement and captain him, just for shits and giggles. Will probably bottle it though.

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Post by RidleyMTB »

In Aguero we trust

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Aguero c
Albrighton vc

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Glad to see these results so far. With the dynamics of my money league it may not be advantageous for me to bring Hazard back in so if a low percentage captain him, the risk of me not having him at all will be less.

Depending on what happens in the Arsenal game tomorrow, I may have to take some sort of gamble with the captaincy if I have a points deficit to make up on my rivals so I may well go with Silva. His PPG is 6.1 so only Aguero has a higher PPG in the game at 6.6 so it would be a reasonably good gamble.
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I was thinking Hazard (c) to be honest, are Southampton suddenly a poor defence or something? :?

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Carlos Kickaball wrote:I was thinking Hazard (c) to be honest, are Southampton suddenly a poor defence or something? :?
With 1 clean sheet in 7 games since Forster got injured, it would appear so yes. I guess the decision could be largely influenced by Sunderlands relegation status after the Arsenal game. If they still need a point which would appear likely I would be expecting them to park the bus against Chelsea. If they are already safe however, it could be a goal fest with Hazard likely heavily involved.

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7 games is an unreliable indicator for clean sheets, you need a longer period as they are not particularly common occurrences, especially as the previous 60 games would suggest that their defence, and not just their keeper is decent.

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I think Hazard is the obvious choice but there are some reasonable options for people chasing and needing to do something a bit different too (Aguero, Silva, Costa, Sanchez, Benteke).

Wow, hadn't seen poll before posting. Surprised by the results so far. FFS poll similarly in Aguero's favour.

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Carlos Kickaball wrote:7 games is an unreliable indicator for clean sheets, you need a longer period as they are not particularly common occurrences, especially as the previous 60 games would suggest that their defence, and not just their keeper is decent.
Maybe this stat is more representative then - 4 away clean sheets all season from 18 games, all of which they got when they had Forster in goal. Couple that with the fact that they are playing City who have only failed to score at home twice (one of which against a top team).

Southampton's clean sheet odds are 7-1.

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thesilkworm wrote:I think Hazard is the obvious choice but there are some reasonable options for people chasing and needing to do something a bit different too (Aguero, Silva, Costa, Sanchez, Benteke).

Wow, hadn't seen poll before posting. Surprised by the results so far. FFS poll similarly in Aguero's favour.
How is Hazard the obvious choice??

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Hazard (c)
Aguero (vc)

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Carlos Kickaball wrote:7 games is an unreliable indicator for clean sheets, you need a longer period as they are not particularly common occurrences, especially as the previous 60 games would suggest that their defence, and not just their keeper is decent.
have you just totally erased the concept of form from this universe? :P
or do you consider form over a two years timespan?
  • (of course the discussion could be longer [and I underline could ;)]
    ... if you mention a stat over 60 games to be used as predictive of a single game, please add the standard deviation and/or variance too :P
    ... a decent defence is not just a keeper, but a keeper can be a key factor in a defence performances too... see topic about DDG just a great saver or defence leader too)


I'm not a frontline advocate of form myself, but I'm happy I sold Bertrand (and KDavis) recognising Saints were not in their best moment defensively anymore
besided, hadn't the whole fisoforum hammered all season that Kun is fixture-proof?

I was undecided between Kun/Eden myself, I was surprised to see the landslide here. FFS is reported to favor Aguero, and FFFix has a 0.3p margin for Kun too
I casted the vote for Kun as I had to choose one,
but the poll doesn't say whether those votes were a close decision or a countrymile one in the mind of the casters
Actually I checked and I realise in my FPL tem the band is currently on Hazard, I thought the contrary! :o :lol:

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gooberman wrote:
thesilkworm wrote:I think Hazard is the obvious choice but there are some reasonable options for people chasing and needing to do something a bit different too (Aguero, Silva, Costa, Sanchez, Benteke).

Wow, hadn't seen poll before posting. Surprised by the results so far. FFS poll similarly in Aguero's favour.
How is Hazard the obvious choice??
There's a good argument to be made for Aguero too, but Hazard stands out to me because he's playing against the weakest defence of the main contenders, and Mourinho has pretty much told us he's playing his best XI. I can see Chelsea wanting to bounce back from last night and ending the season in style.

Edit to add: not checked stats but from memory I think Southampton have kept it pretty tight against the top teams this season (two draws with Chelsea, winning away at Old Trafford, only losing 1-0 at the Emirates).
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If anyone's curious, the FFS projections have Hazard top by a clear point. It seems to me that FFS seem to focus on longer term stats whereas FFFix reacts more to recent form. I do think Hazard is the better option, but probably not by the full point which FFS claims.

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Aguero (c), Hazard (vc) for me I rekon.

Very close call indeed. Chelsea seem to have stepped down a gear since winning the title, whereas City have stepped up one since. Hazard himself has been posting the same sort of background numbers that he has all season but the rest of the team haven't. I'd be happy with either.
Carlos Kickaball wrote:7 games is an unreliable indicator for clean sheets, you need a longer period as they are not particularly common occurrences, especially as the previous 60 games would suggest that their defence, and not just their keeper is decent.


Just to add to the already numerous responses to this. It seems a small range was good enough for you at the start of the season, transferring in Clyne and Bertrand in weeks 4 and 6 respectively despite apparently not rating Southampton's defence enough to start with any of their defenders. :wink:

Considering there's been two changes of manager since the start of the 60 game run in the league you cite, I don't see why the games at the start of last season are particularly relevant compared to the last 7.

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Maybe statistically there isn't much to choose between them but personally I feel that going against an in form Aguero at home is a risk only worth taking if there is a need to gamble. Look what he did when he last played at home.

Aguero is more explosive and seems more likely to get a big score. Hazard has been consistent but has only actually scored more than 11 points twice.

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Aguero (c)

...I presume it's not just me that cannot see polls in Tapatalk?

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Stemania wrote:
Carlos Kickaball wrote:7 games is an unreliable indicator for clean sheets, you need a longer period as they are not particularly common occurrences, especially as the previous 60 games would suggest that their defence, and not just their keeper is decent.


Just to add to the already numerous responses to this. It seems a small range was good enough for you at the start of the season, transferring in Clyne and Bertrand in weeks 4 and 6 respectively despite apparently not rating Southampton's defence enough to start with any of their defenders. :wink:

Considering there's been two changes of manager since the start of the 60 game run in the league you cite, I don't see why the games at the start of last season are particularly relevant compared to the last 7.
Perhaps the difference was that we didn't have half a season of the opposite happening before, so we weren't throwing away a much agreed on prior belief, and part of the reason to buy Southampton defenders was the good fixtures until week 13 rather than certainty they would be one of the best defences in the league.

Why would I buy them in week 1 when they had Liverpool away, and a new manager? :lol:

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BTW, I see no Leicester strikers in the poll :P

FFFix places them around 10th highest projections, while FFS rates them much lower
in my "season team scoring H/A averages DB" tho, i.e. a factual but very basic, unsophisticated stat,
QPR have the highest goal conceding avg for last gw,
0.4 goals more than City would score v Sou or Arse would score v WBA according to past averages, and 0.6 goals more than Chelsea would score v Sun :o
not much thus for Foxes home scoring avg, which is a bit below PL avg, but mainly because QPR by far conceded away more than any other team

I repeat, these are not projections nor predictions, just the record and combination of team scores over the season
and it does not take time into account, i.e. it doesn't favor recent results (see Leicester, although they might relax now that they're safe)
but stilll... :wink:

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Will need between a 20 or 30 point swing in the ML so may opt for Benteke.. We both have benteke, aguero, kane, sanchez, and hazard as the main players but I'm certain he'll captain aguero

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18 goals in the last 6 for City and Aguero has 8 goals and 3 assists in these 6 games, has to be him IMO, especially if Arsenal wins tonight. Form over fixture

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Aguero is too explosive. It doesn't matter who he's playing. Chelsea have wrapped up the league and it shows in their performances. Sunderland are the only team ever to have beaten Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in the league and may be fighting for their lives.

Aguero (c)
Not Hazard (vc)

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Vardy (c)
Albrighton (vc)

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PVA(Larsson)

Chelsea are on their holidays now the Mourinho title has been won.

;)

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I'll be happy if this last round is relatively low scoring

I think Aguero for me for captain. No way on Sanchez. Benteke, perhaps

These are the kind of games Benteke will hit a 2 in. He'll get 2 away to Liverpool or United but nothing in these ones. Also the kind of game Hazard will do nothing. If not captain he'll maybe get double figures but if I made him captain I'd be getting angrier as the match went on

A lot of players looking like they jacked it in for the season now

Aguero seems the safest option as bang in form

Leicester maybe foot off the gas now but got Vardy. Benteke (vc) if I bring him in otherwise Sanchez for the LOLs

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Bringing Perez in and (c)

BELIEVE

Aguero (c)

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Aguero (c), Hazard (vc). The possibility of Jose resting Hazard for the final game means it's an easy pick this week.

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Hogmeister wrote:Aguero (c), Hazard (vc). The possibility of Jose resting Hazard for the final game means it's an easy pick this week.
Why would he rest him? Rest him for what? I'm pretty sure he has been quoted as saying he will be playing the players that have played all season for the final game unless Sunderland now being safe changes that plan.

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He also played Terry, Ivanovic and Hazard at WBA due to their 'wish to play in every league game this season'

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