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I got lucky this week as I had zouma in my squad and he actually played! I have been meaning to ditch him for a while but it's just never happened.

Question is should I keep hold of him for the dgw or upgrade him to a definite chelsea starter?

What is the chances of Zouma playing and keeping his spot in the team? Is it more likely that he'll be dropped again for the likes of Willian or Ramires?

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You should definitely drop him for a sure starter. I would not be surprised if he plays against Arsenal as they will undoubtedly park the bus and play for a counter like they did against United. But after that he will be back as a bit part. Plus with Mikel now back Mourinho has a second option in the park the bus setup.

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We should probably talk about Kurt Zouma:

- He has not lost his place in the team since he replaced John Terry at half time against Man City
- The Arsenal game was his 4th straight start in the PL and 5th straight start in all competitions
- He has played more premier league minutes than Terry or Cahill this season
- He has played in every Chelsea match this season
- His price dropped from 5.5m to 5.4m after GW5

With Chelsea's turn in form and fixtures, could be a good player to gamble on when transferring out your various broken defenders.

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I still prefer the certainty of starts of Azpilicueta for 0.6m more

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I'll wait and watch for the next couple of weeks. By then we'll know if he is nailed or not and we'll have a better idea about Chelsea's prospects of CSs. Have got Darmian, Kolarov, Elphick and will bring in Evans this week, so I can afford to wait

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Could be a bargain if he plays week in week out. Chelsea are short of pace at the back with Ivanovic playing RB and either of/both Cahill and Terry.

Currently have Azpi from day 1 but Zouma has that chance of goals - and 0.6 ITB

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I've jumped on this now. 5.4m and looks a really good punt to be the first name at CB.

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I quite like him too actually - he's probably slightly more secure of his place than we think, but not sure that's secure enough. Bego looks a decent enough way into the Chelsea defence for now as a secure option.

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Stemania wrote:I quite like him too actually - he's probably slightly more secure of his place than we think, but not sure that's secure enough. Bego looks a decent enough way into the Chelsea defence for now as a secure option.
In the short term. But what about potentially just 6 weeks from now?

My other concern is the lack of bonus if/when Chelsea pull it around and really cut down their conceded shots on target. I'd rather have a 4.5m keep who keeps fewer CS but racks up the bonus and perhaps scores a penalty save or two, and a Chelsea outfield player. I've never been much of a fan of keepers as a way into a costly defence.

Agreed this isn't 100% secure but i'm creeping past quietly confident that now is the right time for him. We know Mour doesn't like to muck about with his team so either this run is designed specifically as punishment/motivation for terry and/or cahill or it's more significant for Zouma. We keep hearing about selecting him because of his pace but no manager wants to be rotating his center backs all season based on physical attributes. And while I think it's inevitable there'll be some more rotation this year than last, cahill/terry look to be the more experienced and adaptable players for that job.

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I am very tempted by Zouma myself. He is a great prospect, and is looking increasingly like being first choice. Personally, I think his pace is a must for that defence and would definitely start him, but I'm not Mourinho, so who knows? My main concern is that Mourinho may not be happy with his faux-pas in the Costa comments, and his place potentially be under threat as a result?

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Notned wrote:My main concern is that Mourinho may not be happy with his faux-pas in the Costa comments, and his place potentially be under threat as a result?
Are you suggesting Mourinho bears grudges? Surely not (hashtag eva). :P

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Stemania wrote:
Notned wrote:My main concern is that Mourinho may not be happy with his faux-pas in the Costa comments, and his place potentially be under threat as a result?
Are you suggesting Mourinho bears grudges? Surely not (hashtag eva). :P
Haha, of course not! (hashtag Team Eva! :lol: )

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Doesn't start tonight... Starting to look more and more nailed

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Mourinho made his excuses last week about picking a fast defender against Arsenal.
The week before that he was in midfield I assume instead of William/Oscar.
Going to hold Joe Gomez for one more week (with appropriate bench cover) but tempted by Zouma if he keeps Terry out again. Otherwise might go for a safer Chelsea defensive option.

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If he is nailed, a Chelsea defender at that price is too good to ignore. I fully expect Chelsea to resume some of last season's form sooner rather than later. I'm thinking of using my 2nd FT to bring him in for Gomez this GW. It's a bit of a 'Martial-y' transfer perhaps: an educated punt to get on a player at base price and hope for future returns. But it could very well pay off. One would expect Zouma to nail down a place at some point...

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I have 0.5 ITB so Cedric to Zouma for me if he plays and Chelsea keep a clean sheet v Newcastle. Think he will rise 0.2.

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No need for a Chelsea attacker at the moment for me so if he starts and they get a CS then I will go with the block of Azpi and Zouma.

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I want to bring in a Chelsea defender for Targett. Deciding between Zouma and Azpil, currently on Azpil since he's locked. I can always bring in Zouma on the wildcard in a couple weeks if he's nailed on by then.

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I believe Azpi is worth the extra 0.6 for bonus points plus chance of assists. But Zouma is a good shout if cash is an issue or even for a semiblock with Azpi.

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Zouma is definitely well and truly on the radar but I think it depends on the make-up of your defence. If you are willing to take the risk that he is going to miss some matches and you have adequate defensive cover then he may be worth the transfer. If not then Azpi might be the better bet as he appears to be more 'nailed'. There is also the risk Zouma would come off the bench some weeks for a 1 pointer due to his versatility.

Whether Chelsea are a good bet defensively this season is a different question.

In my situation I'm not sure I'd want Zouma as one of my two 'premium' defenders without sufficient cover. At the moment my cover is Targett (about to lose his place) and Huth( lack of clean sheets). If I was to make only one transfer I'd probably be more inclined to look for a more nailed-on player than Zouma (unless Cahill or Terry got injured) or I would need to make two defensive transfers to bolster my fourth defender.

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He seems a bit expensive to me for what has to be considered a rotation risk still. Id sit tight and give it another few games before doubling up on a Chelsea defender anyway.

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Thanks for helping me re-prioritize - I originally wanted Azpi but it would have meant a another -4 hit; selling the skillful (injured? KDB rotating? reliable? ) Silva to release his truckload of funds.

Silva -> Mane / Tadic / Sako / ???
Cedric -> Azpi

It all hinges on the appearances / performances in the matches this weekend.

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djskope wrote:I have 0.5 ITB so Cedric to Zouma for me if he plays and Chelsea keep a clean sheet v Newcastle. Think he will rise 0.2.
That's the transfer I'm thinking of at the moment
I want zouma I'm pretty sure he will start from now on but is still a risk

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The Silva injury forced my hand in the end, which is probably for the best. Zouma can wait a week or two, by which time we'll have a bit more info.

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Can anybody (Chelsea fans) shed any light on how 'nailed' Zouma is in that Chelsea defence?

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I don't think anybody could say he's nailed. But he looks to be in possession right now.

Still, given how Chelsea have been defending, why would you want him? And if you did want a Chelsea defender then why not stretch to the safety and BPs of Azpilcueta?

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Afraid Hiddink will play Cahill and bench Zouma... :cry:

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Well, along with Stanislas and Vardy in my squad that could be a disaster. I'd like to think not though... Zouma has pace, something the other two lack.

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Damn you Hiddink....

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eastcentral1 wrote:Well, along with Stanislas and Vardy in my squad that could be a disaster. I'd like to think not though... Zouma has pace, something the other two lack.
Stanislas and Vardy worked out for you, I have Zouma/Bolaise and Hoolahan on the bench...

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