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Bob Newhart wrote:Actually, it's more about predicting who will score points, unless you have a time machine.
..or you're Hiro Nakamura. Or Nicholas Cage in Next :wink:

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thanks pub standard footballer.

alrdy down for 7x2 = 14(c) without baps
goooo charlie!!!

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oh my, make that a likely 2+4+3+3+2 = 14x2 = 28!

this certainly makes my austin->costa plans tricky

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Perfect day in fpl

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Goal, two assists, 3 bps, I shall go to the pub to celebrate

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Next round's on me, Charlie boy!

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looks like a minimum of 34 (c) now!

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New stats just in, hot from the pub

Only Aguero is ahead of Lord Charles for goals and assists

But Lord Charles has the BEST shot accuracy in the prem, bar none, 68%. ( for strokers over 50 shots )

For those that can't do maths or studied stats that's a goal roughly every 2 shots

Not bad for chump in a pub team

Gunnersrus should be given poster of the year award, sponsored by Tetleys ( prize is a year moderating the Pub forum)
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Newsflash, he's rejected the prize

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Captain him for the rest of the season then Bongo.

In fact do it against Chelsea next week. If he scores i'll quit this forum.

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um09a2k wrote:Captain him for the rest of the season then Bongo.

In fact do it against Chelsea next week. If he scores i'll quit this forum.
He's already scored against Chelsea, Man C and Arsenal (both games), so what makes a goal so unlikely against Chelsea this week?

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I think you're right Aldershot and keeping Benteke or Austin for gwk32 is definitely an option especially if there is a better transfer to make elsewhere.

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Aldershot Rejects wrote:
um09a2k wrote:Captain him for the rest of the season then Bongo.

In fact do it against Chelsea next week. If he scores i'll quit this forum.
He's already scored against Chelsea, Man C and Arsenal (both games), so what makes a goal so unlikely against Chelsea this week?
His goal against Chelsea the first time was sheer fluke.

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um09a2k wrote:
His goal against Chelsea the first time was sheer fluke.
What difference does that make? Which striker has never scored a lucky goal. Besides, Chelsea are hardly water-tight at the back at the moment.

I'm thinking that I'll probably keep him for another week - he strikes me as being as likely to score as any of the other options.

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Re: Charlie Austin is a pub standard footballer

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Betfair give him about a 30% chance of scoring against Chelsea, so we're roughly talking about a one in four chance (taking away their margin).

Talking in terms of 'will score' or 'won't score' is meaningless.

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Stemania wrote:Betfair give him about a 30% chance of scoring against Chelsea, so we're roughly talking about a one in four chance (taking away their margin).

Talking in terms of 'will score' or 'won't score' is meaningless.
I have the odds as 3.4 on the sportsbook on betfair for anytime scorer. I'm an idiot, how do you translate that 30%?

I normally write down the odds and just compare them as they are but it would be a lot more easier to compare them in percentages!

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It's just 1/3.4 = 0.294 = ~30%

I don't know exactly how big an edge bookies have on these markets, but Ste's estimate of him scoring about 1 in 4 this weekend sounds about right.

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um09a2k wrote:
ruudy wrote:15 goals and 5 assists all whilst playin for 2nd worst team in the league says you are not correct.

Pub team... Maybe.
I called that he wouldn't keep up his form and descend into mediocrity after Christmas.
17 goals, 7 assists

6 goals, 4 assists since Christmas.

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ruudy wrote:
um09a2k wrote:
ruudy wrote:15 goals and 5 assists all whilst playin for 2nd worst team in the league says you are not correct.

Pub team... Maybe.
I called that he wouldn't keep up his form and descend into mediocrity after Christmas.
17 goals, 7 assists

6 goals, 4 assists since Christmas.

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Well he definitely hasn't been as prolific since Christmas. 6 goals in 15 games since Christmas is definitely mediocre Ruudy boy. Inb4 plays for Quite Possibly Relegated.

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um09a2k wrote:
ruudy wrote:
um09a2k wrote:
ruudy wrote:15 goals and 5 assists all whilst playin for 2nd worst team in the league says you are not correct.

Pub team... Maybe.
I called that he wouldn't keep up his form and descend into mediocrity after Christmas.
17 goals, 7 assists

6 goals, 4 assists since Christmas.

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Well he definitely hasn't been as prolific since Christmas. 6 goals in 15 games since Christmas is definitely mediocre Ruudy boy. Inb4 plays for Quite Possibly Relegated.
You missed the assists part lol.

Not mediocre when you play for relagation fodder.

Not mediocre when it's better than Aguero.

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ruudy wrote: You missed the assists part lol.

Not mediocre when you play for relagation fodder.

Not mediocre when it's better than Aguero.

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Not really, Aguero missed quite a few games since Christmas and has still done better than Austin in terms of minutes per goal.

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um09a2k wrote:
ruudy wrote: You missed the assists part lol.

Not mediocre when you play for relagation fodder.

Not mediocre when it's better than Aguero.

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Not really, Aguero missed quite a few games since Christmas and has still done better than Austin in terms of minutes per goal.
Tell you what, you tell me the PPG for each since Christmas (i know the answer) . Then tell me the price of the pub footballer and the world class footballer.

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ruudy wrote:
um09a2k wrote:
ruudy wrote: You missed the assists part lol.

Not mediocre when you play for relagation fodder.

Not mediocre when it's better than Aguero.

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Not really, Aguero missed quite a few games since Christmas and has still done better than Austin in terms of minutes per goal.
Tell you what, you tell me the PPG for each since Christmas (i know the answer) . Then tell me the price of the pub footballer and the world class footballer.
But I never mentioned how he does compared to Aguero. They have both been mediocre in this latter half of the season, that was my original point when I said Austin couldn't keep up the same form he showed in the first half of the season.

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um09a2k wrote:
ruudy wrote:
um09a2k wrote:...Not really, Aguero missed quite a few games since Christmas and has still done better than Austin in terms of minutes per goal.
Tell you what, you tell me the PPG for each since Christmas (i know the answer) . Then tell me the price of the pub footballer and the world class footballer.
But I never mentioned how he does compared to Aguero.
:? :?:
I might not understand english perfectly well, but it looks to me you actually just did that...

...maybe you meant you didn't it first?

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um09a2k wrote:I called that he wouldn't keep up his form and descend into mediocrity after Christmas.
"his form", well, how long does "form" extend?

just before Xmas,
from GW13 to GW17 he played 4 games, PPG 8.75, his best over more than 2 games
stretch back widening the sample, GW9-17, 8 games, PPG 7.9
GW3-17, PPG 6.3, graciously omitting GW1 when he missed a pen
from season start GW1-17 PPG 5.9

including his 7p boxing day in it, we get
GW13-18 PPG 8.4
GW9-18 PPG 7.8
GW1-18 PPG 5.9

well, in GW19-33 his PPG is 4.86

he didn't keep up the SAME form, ok
but "descend into mediocrity"? I think that's a bit harshm and can be debated

he has the 6th PPG for fwds in GW19-33

Kane 7.643
Giroud 6.417
Murray 6.333
Costa 5.889
Benteke 4.933
Austin 4.857
Agüero 4.750

is that mediocrity?

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His PPG pre and post xmas isn't that much different at all.

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MoSe wrote: he has the 6th PPG for fwds in GW19-33

Kane 7.643
Giroud 6.417
Murray 6.333
Costa 5.889
Benteke 4.933
Austin 4.857
Agüero 4.750

is that mediocrity?
Why not use points per minute rather than PPG. PPG is inaccurate when you get players like Aguero who get injured frequently and make a few sub appearances here and there, so i'm sure Aguero will be higher if you use that ratio instead.

And 4.857 points per game for me is mediocre, not good nor is it poor. So I don't think I gave a misguided opinion there. And in the second half of the season, team value is of less importance so to compare his price to premium strikers is a bit irrelevant, not mentioning that Murray is actually cheaper and has been on better form.
ruudy wrote:His PPG pre and post xmas isn't that much different at all.
How can you say that, he went from averaging almost a goal a game to now getting less than an assist a game :shock:

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um09a2k wrote: Why not use points per minute rather than PPG.
It's hard to say. Why would someone use such a crass performance measurer as PPG? I guess it could be for one of any number of reasons. Or it could be for this reason:
um09a2k wrote: Tell you what, you tell me the PPG for each since Christmas (i know the answer) . Then tell me the price of the pub footballer and the world class footballer.

Are you just going to keep asking for different performance metrics until one gives you the answer you want? :wink:

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Stemania wrote:
um09a2k wrote: Why not use points per minute rather than PPG.
It's hard to say. Why would someone use such a crass performance measurer as PPG? I guess it could be for one of any number of reasons. Or it could be for this reason:
um09a2k wrote: Tell you what, you tell me the PPG for each since Christmas (i know the answer) . Then tell me the price of the pub footballer and the world class footballer.

Are you just going to keep asking for different performance metrics until one gives you the answer you want? :wink:
I didn't say that. It seems like the quotation system on this forum is too complex for Ruudy.

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Ha ha, sorry then - in fairness to him the quote system does seem a bit broken atm. I was proud of myself too with that rapier-like wit. :lol: :oops:

PPM is no better than PPG btw, they're both over-simplistic.

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