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I understand why you'd do it, but I intend to have Costa & Sánchez. :D

Obviously there are other things I'm choosing to forgo, but the point is, I can have both so won't be losing one of the highest points potential players in the game. Obviously all plans depend a little on the DGWs.

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I think Ozil has similar points potential. In fact, i think Ozil will get as many points as Sanchez will, up to the end of the season.
Does not mean Sanchez necessarily needs to be moved out, mind.

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So much depends on the Utd v Arsenal FA cup tie, if Utd win then Chelsea will have two extra games and Liverpool one extra than Arsenal after gwk33 which so late on in the season is a big advantage, and i'd say Liverpool's run in is quite kind as well.

So it's all just a big IF atm ...but if that happened

I'd probably bench my two Chelsea and one Liverpool player in 33 and play my 3 Arsenal players. (May also have mignolet as reserve keeper)

I may then look to do something like Sanchez to Sterling or Henderson/Coutinho if already got him and Giroud to Costa for my gwk34 transfers.

I've made some plans if Arsenal win also but they're all just ideas at the moment as so much is variable and no need to decide anything yet.

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baganboy wrote:I think Ozil has similar points potential. In fact, i think Ozil will get as many points as Sanchez will, up to the end of the season.
Does not mean Sanchez necessarily needs to be moved out, mind.
Funny you should say this as it wasn't that long ago that Ozil was considered a joke, now he's getting talked about as an equal to one of the top fantasy players of the season.

There's a lot of faith in Ozil now after 3 or 4 decent scores.

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Douglas Reynholm wrote: Funny you should say this as it wasn't that long ago that Ozil was considered a joke, now he's getting talked about as an equal to one of the top fantasy players of the season.

There's a lot of faith in Ozil now after 3 or 4 decent scores.
As an Ozil owner, I'm beginning to wonder if he is a season-keeper. But having said that his points pattern since he returned from injury is similar to Di Maria's when he first arrived, so things could obviously shift.

The interesting thing for me is that when Ozil and Sanchez have started together, Sanchez averages 4.0 points per game, but when Ozil hasn't started Sanchez averages 7.9 points per game. Makes me wonder about whether to move Sanchez on.

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I definitely see a pattern whereby any player who performs well for a few weeks, is deemed to be as good as a top notch premium by someone looking for a bargain. [any Arsenal mid that scores well for a few weeks] is as good as Sánchez. [any cheap forward that scores well for a few weeks] is as good as Costa. I'm surprised we haven't had Danny Rose is as good as Branislav Ivanović yet. :lol:

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That Danny Rose, reckon he's worth £7.5m

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Douglas Reynholm wrote:
baganboy wrote:I think Ozil has similar points potential. In fact, i think Ozil will get as many points as Sanchez will, up to the end of the season.
Does not mean Sanchez necessarily needs to be moved out, mind.
Funny you should say this as it wasn't that long ago that Ozil was considered a joke, now he's getting talked about as an equal to one of the top fantasy players of the season.

There's a lot of faith in Ozil now after 3 or 4 decent scores.
It's called form, believe it or not players don't perform consistently during the course of their careers or even during individual seasons

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Ramsey is back now which means either Ozil or Cazorla will get shifted out to the left so his good 'form' could quite easily slip back into his old 'form' and it's a huge risk to replace Sanchez with him now especially now that his 'drought' is over.

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You think Ramsey will come straight back into the team? Cazorla has been awesome in that role in his absence. I guess it puts even more pressure on Giroud's place too.

Ramsey replacing Coquelin would be too much presumably.

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Yeah I think he will, Coquelin, Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Sanchez and Giroud is how I see it panning out, we will see against West Ham.

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I will be selling Sanchez if Arsenal beat UTD . Not because he's playing poorly

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Billy Bongo wrote:I will be selling Sanchez if Arsenal beat UTD . Not because he's playing poorly
Why then? Because he'll have a blank in GW33? Isn't that a good thing so you can bench him for one week and then benefit from a double?

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I'll possibly have 6 to bench. I wish things were as simple as that lol

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Bobby Chopps wrote:
Billy Bongo wrote:I will be selling Sanchez if Arsenal beat UTD . Not because he's playing poorly
Why then? Because he'll have a blank in GW33? Isn't that a good thing so you can bench him for one week and then benefit from a double?
Perhaps he wants to bring Hazard back in instead. :wink: :P

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Do we think Ramsay's return is good or bad as a Cazorla owner? Good in the sense that it may afford him a return to a more forward position, but could potentially slightly heighten his chances of rotation at the same time?

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Perhaps, he's done nothing to warrant being dropped and the fact that he was given the captains armband by Wenger when Mertersacker was dropped tells you what Wenger thinks of him.

The return of Ramsey could actually benefit him as he's been playing pretty deep lately then when Ramsey was in the side.

He's home to West Ham next, a perfect game to judge if you stick or twist.

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Do we think the return of Ramsey will mean the '3' behind Giroud will now be Sanchez Cazorla Ozil?

If so who will be shifted out wide? The central advanced midfielder seems to be the one amongst the points in this Arsenal team. Sanchez early on, Cazorla had a spell there and then Ozil on return from injury.

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The Toon Man wrote:Do we think the return of Ramsey will mean the '3' behind Giroud will now be Sanchez Cazorla Ozil?

If so who will be shifted out wide? The central advanced midfielder seems to be the one amongst the points in this Arsenal team. Sanchez early on, Cazorla had a spell there and then Ozil on return from injury.
It should be
-----------Giroud
Cazorla-----Ozil-----Sanchez

but this is Wenger we're talking about so probably
--------------Giroud
Sanchez ---Cazorla---Ozil

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I will be interested to see

-----giroud-----
--sanchez -- ozil -- walcott
--carozla/ramsey--- cocq.---

but will not happen probably ever...

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Douglas Reynholm wrote:Perhaps, he's done nothing to warrant being dropped and the fact that he was given the captains armband by Wenger when Mertersacker was dropped tells you what Wenger thinks of him.

The return of Ramsey could actually benefit him as he's been playing pretty deep lately then when Ramsey was in the side.

He's home to West Ham next, a perfect game to judge if you stick or twist.
Pretty much my exact thinking.

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might drop the guy. hes been in my team due to the fear factor.at that price his pts have been shocking. big decision for me this gwk. have himself and santi and need to decide. tempted to get rid of them both tbh with 2 free transfers.

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Who do you drop him for?

Most have Hazard and Silva, a lot also have Eriksen, who's in the game that offers more than him?

Toure? Sterling? Lallana? Ozil? Di Maria? Downing? Sigurdsson? Fabregas? Walcott? Ramsey?

There is an argument to be had that none of the above offer (or have offered) reliability and consistency (they've all had spells like Sanchez) so it could be seen as a sideways move, Ozil has defiantly settled down after his little burst of points.

You could always use the money to upgrade a striker to Costa but he's not exactly pulling up trees in the second half of the season and his output has suffered like Fabregas has and perhaps is linked to the lack of his supply, the double striker of choice looks like Giroud now and selling Sanchez is not essential to bring him in.

Some people have some interesting decisions to make with only 8 weeks to go and a double on the horizon for him, now is not the time to panic.

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Good post gunner, i'm very reluctant to drop him too atm, he's still a class act and Arsenal's nice run of fixtures would make me look elsewhere for the moment.

I see Boyd dropped despite his 11 point return, so some people are now looking anywhere for extra funds, and while i have no immediate plans to drop Sanchez, at such a high price and given his recent very poor returns, it's not that hard to see why it could be a very tempting option for some.

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I suspect Bollasie and Zaha are good bets

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I'm considering selling because I already have 3 Arsenal and no Giroud. I have to decide if Sanchez and Austin with no transfers used is better than Giroud and ???? with 2 transfers used.

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Looks like he'll be dropping tonight or very shortly -96.5 on fplstats

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Since I have already dropped him, I like current Sanchez situation very much. Now everyone has to consider whether to spend a transfer to drop him or have a very expensive GW33 blank.

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The thing about Sanchez is that he is the most secure player in the Arsenal midfield. I've really no idea which of Ozil, Walcott, Ramsey & Cazorla will play both games in DGW34. Sanchez will surely play in both though, even if it's only 70 minutes in each.

He is still very dangerous (4 shots, 2 on target was joint leading in the game yesterday despite coming off early) so if you do go without him it does look a dangerous game to me. Stuck out left he doesn't seem as effective as earlier in the season but the money isn't so tight with Kane around so its more about points potential than value right now.

You could make an argument for dropping him for Costa or Sturridge, but that has the knock on effect of deciding to drop Aguero or forgo Austin's double and burns a couple of transfers too.

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There are always going to be great picks that go a few weeks without getting a monster score, and while this happens there will always be a few cheaper players that outscore them. Would it have been genius to sell Agüero for Benteke, two game weeks ago, no it would have been a silly punt.

People are playing Russian roulette with Sánchez, they play a few rounds and don't get the bullet, and suddenly come to the conclusion it's a wise game to play. :lol:

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