No, they scored after the 'incident' (but they were already down to 10 men)Stemania wrote:Weren't the Italians already down to 10 men and Uruguay 1-0 up when it happened? I don't believe for a second it was premeditated.lurker wrote: He wanted to win so he bit Chielini to spark a reaction, hopefully an elbow so that he could drop like sack of spuds and con the referee into giving a penalty and maybe see the Italians down to 10 men and Uruguay 1-0 up.
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Half right is an improvement for me.
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I can't agree with this. There's no way he'd premeditate a bite as he knows how bad the repercussions would be as he's already done it twice and received lengthy bans. It would have been totally in the moment. We all saw him shaking his head as he walked off the pitch. He knows he screwed up badly.lurker wrote:Theres no 'red mist', theres no counselling needed, its a calculated con-job, moonlightdribblers VT shows that he performs premeditated attacks on a regular basisGiggs11 wrote:Like I said, what happens when someone really gets his back up.
What did Chiellini do exactly murf?
I didn't watch the game but in the incident he seemed to simply stand his ground.
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I refer back to old brain / limbic system. That's where this kind of behaviour would come from. It's not something he had control over at the time and that's what he needs counselling for.
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I've seen most of those before but what is striking is how frequently he seems to make the challenge in such a way as to appear to be fouled himself. Cattermole is just as reckless but in an odd way he's more 'honest' about it...moonlightdribbler wrote:At least Cattermole doesn't try and make out he's the one who's been 'done'...
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Face it, he's one unhinged, horrible little bustard.
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lurker wrote:Theres no 'red mist', theres no counselling needed, its a calculated con-job, moonlightdribblers VT shows that he performs premeditated attacks on a regular basisGiggs11 wrote:Like I said, what happens when someone really gets his back up.
What did Chiellini do exactly murf?
I didn't watch the game but in the incident he seemed to simply stand his ground.
The Italian defence kept him from getting goals, so he was going out
He wanted to win so he bit Chielini to spark a reaction, hopefully an elbow so that he could drop like sack of spuds and con the referee into giving a penalty and maybe see the Italians down to 10 men and Uruguay 1-0 up.
He did it in the last world cup with his handball off the line.He's a cheat. On the biggest footballing stage.
He should be banned from international matches for passed the next world cup and get a painfully long immediate ban. Uruguay should be thrown out and the Italians put through.
A handball on the line is not pre-meditated and nor was the bite. No idea why he bit (frustration?) but it is spur of the moment stuff.
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But do you believe it to be the action of a sane person? I believe it to be the reaction of a nutcase.
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He obviously has some mental issues and he flips in some way - everyone who knows him says he is normally a really nice, gentle guy but when he crosses the white line he really loves winning and hates losing (possibly the root of it?)Giggs11 wrote:But do you believe it to be the action of a sane person? I believe it to be the reaction of a nutcase.
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He'll be at Real or Barca next season.
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Yeah the handball was a split second reaction, I'm not saying that was premeditated, but its the action of a cheat. Last night I've no doubt he went into the penalty box with the thought '' There's 10 minutes left of my world cup unless we get a goal, and i'll do anything to get one''murf wrote:lurker wrote:Theres no 'red mist', theres no counselling needed, its a calculated con-job, moonlightdribblers VT shows that he performs premeditated attacks on a regular basisGiggs11 wrote:Like I said, what happens when someone really gets his back up.
What did Chiellini do exactly murf?
I didn't watch the game but in the incident he seemed to simply stand his ground.
The Italian defence kept him from getting goals, so he was going out
He wanted to win so he bit Chielini to spark a reaction, hopefully an elbow so that he could drop like sack of spuds and con the referee into giving a penalty and maybe see the Italians down to 10 men and Uruguay 1-0 up.
He did it in the last world cup with his handball off the line.He's a cheat. On the biggest footballing stage.
He should be banned from international matches for passed the next world cup and get a painfully long immediate ban. Uruguay should be thrown out and the Italians put through.
A handball on the line is not pre-meditated and nor was the bite. No idea why he bit (frustration?) but it is spur of the moment stuff.
Given the opportunity he would have
- had a shot at goal - didn't get the chance;
- taken a dive if the defender gave him the opportunity - didn't get the chance
- cause the defender to react so he could take a dive - ''shall I stamp on his toes? give him a pinch? naah, lets give him a nibble'' - BINGO!!!
For me Its not a reaction to anything Chielinis done in the moment of that cross/attack, a reaction to me is instant - not something that's taken even 5-10 seconds to ponder, hes probably had it cross his mind while hes lingering up front in the latter stages of the game, maybe even when hes getting into the box for the attack.
Tyson wasn't allowed to fight for around 18 months after his bite, and that's a sport where a battering is a good thing. And it was his first time
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I'm not with you all the way but think there's some logic to the bit about the lack of provocation. Either he's is crazily easy to provoke or it's something else. Surely even he cannot be that loony to have thought that having a nibble might end well for him.
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6 game international ban is what im hearing now, however Uruguay will appeal so Suarez will stay play next game.
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Phil Thompson: Luis Suarez 'bite' has 'shamed and embarrassed' Liverpool.
He thinks selling him would now be the best option.
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He thinks selling him would now be the best option.
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Papers are saying Barce still want him for £80m.
Think Liverpool would take it now. ...
Think Liverpool would take it now. ...
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So the Uraguayans are saying English, Spanish and Italian media are going for him. Has he killed his cash cow? So it's France or Germany then
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Must be Monaco, a place where they take winners at all costs. Principles don't come in to it.
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On a Fantasy level it makes it more interesting if he moves on. One template player gone!
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Definitely. Would make picking the strikers far more interesting, not to mention captaincy choices!GobiLux wrote:On a Fantasy level it makes it more interesting if he moves on. One template player gone!
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9 matches 4 months
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By current fixtures, that's 9 Premiership matches missed as well as the 9 Internationals.jimmy ching wrote:9 matches 4 months
1st one back would be Newcastle away on November 1st.
Good news for me - misses the Anfield derby!
Doesn't affect FPL, but will mean missing 3 Champions League matches and a League Cup one.
Anyone have any idea if he's even allowed to play friendlies / reserve games?
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Who were your sources?Achiles74 wrote:6 game international ban is what im hearing now, however Uruguay will appeal so Suarez will stay play next game.
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liquidfootball2 wrote:Who were your sources?Achiles74 wrote:6 game international ban is what im hearing now, however Uruguay will appeal so Suarez will stay play next game.
the voices in his head probably.... its already been said by FIFA he's banned regardless of any appeal
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He is banned from any football activity, he can't even enter any stadium.Scottoffee wrote:
Anyone have any idea if he's even allowed to play friendlies / reserve games?
http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ng-uruguay
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The question for Colombia is whether this appeal now means he'll be available and may well play a part in sending them home.
Surprised has said that FIFA have stated he's out of the game, I hadn't heard this other than as part of the original sentence, but hope it's true.
Now seems to be confirmed as according to The Guardian's Owen Gibson:-
Although Uruguay can appeal the decision, it will not stop Suárez being banned from Saturday’s match because under article 124 of the Fifa disciplinary code it does not have a “suspensive effect”.
Surprised has said that FIFA have stated he's out of the game, I hadn't heard this other than as part of the original sentence, but hope it's true.
Now seems to be confirmed as according to The Guardian's Owen Gibson:-
Although Uruguay can appeal the decision, it will not stop Suárez being banned from Saturday’s match because under article 124 of the Fifa disciplinary code it does not have a “suspensive effect”.
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Stemania wrote:Yes, but in different seasons and different comps under different governing bodies.Bron Yr Aur wrote:He's been caught committing the same disgusting, cowardly offence THREE times!Stemania wrote:Overblown again for me. I don't really understand why everyone thinks what he's done is so much worth than a headbutt, punch or two footed challenge. It's just weird if anything.
Even then, the likes of Cattermole are sent off multiple times for 2 footed challenges, but the ban is the same every time if it's their first of the season.
Are you seriously comparing a bad tackle (tackles are still part of the game) with biting another human?
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As someone who has been on the receiving end of a lot of very bad tackles, one resulted in me not being able to play football anymore, at least on a high (professional) level, I can honestly say that I think that I would rather be bitten than to face another horror tackle again. Of course this sounds very stupid. It's more that Suarez's behavior is totally inexcusable and it is also in the context of public opinion and imaging.
That said, of course forming a hand gesture to make a political statement is worse than a bite
That said, of course forming a hand gesture to make a political statement is worse than a bite
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These aren't "hand gestured political statements" This is ... on whatever scale (imo) the former is worse than biting/spitting ... the latter a small part of making the world a better place. Please let's not confuse brave political stances with ignorance and bigotry.From4corners wrote:That said, of course forming a hand gesture to make a political statement is worse than a bite
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Rickie Lambert anyone?
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gooberman wrote:Rickie Lambert anyone?
Yesterday on the other thread Tacalabala wrote:Well, Lambert is definitely starting in my FPL team...
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Some tackles are premeditated assault, why is biting worse?gunnersaurus wrote:Stemania wrote:Yes, but in different seasons and different comps under different governing bodies.Bron Yr Aur wrote:He's been caught committing the same disgusting, cowardly offence THREE times!Stemania wrote:Overblown again for me. I don't really understand why everyone thinks what he's done is so much worth than a headbutt, punch or two footed challenge. It's just weird if anything.
Even then, the likes of Cattermole are sent off multiple times for 2 footed challenges, but the ban is the same every time if it's their first of the season.
Are you seriously comparing a bad tackle (tackles are still part of the game) with biting another human?
Look at this , and Souness pointing to his sock same way Suarez did his teeth, and tell me Suarez bite was worse
This is almost gbh!!
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